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Red Ribboning Documents

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by Howerd, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    My wife has asked about the red ribboning of documents before she comes to the UK. Does anyone have any experience of documents that required to be red-ribboned to be accepted in the UK?

    As The Philippines is not signed up to the Hague Convention to Apostille documents, the DFA red-ribbon documents instead. Documents such as: Marriage Certificate, Birth Certificate, NBI Clearance Ceritficate, Examination Certificates and even Passports can be red-ribboned but if red-ribboning is not recognised in the UK, what is the point? I can find mention of red-ribboning of documents for the USA and the MIddle East but not for the UK.

    Red-ribboning may may be useful if the Filipino partner intends to travel and the country of destination requires this but the introduction of the Biometric Residence Permit may make some of the red-ribboning redundant.

    Also, does anyone know if NARIC actually require Examination Certificates to be red-ribboned or do NARIC not actually validate someone's educational certificates?
  2. Timmers
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    UK NARIC requires the original copies of the following;

    1. Diploma or certificate of graduation
    2. Transcript of records
    3. Description of each subject taken or course descriptions

    All should bear the seal of the university issuing them.

    No red ribbon required.
  3. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Howerd the NBI Police clearance may be worth doing as the simple clearance is known to be faked we did the Missus via the DFA since it would be more difficult to do from here
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    @Timmers NARIC will say of an oversea qualification is recognised in the UK and at what level but do they actually authenticate certificates themselves? The idea of red-ribboning is authenticate a documents as genuine; I don't think NARIC do that, so it may be necessary to get educational certificates authenticated as genuine by red-ribboning (assuming red-ribboning is recognised in the UK)
  5. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Have your wife ever been asked to show the red-ribboned NBI clearance? My wife got her NBI Clearance today.
  6. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    She was in Portugal but so far here she hasnt needed a CRB if she ever does that will cover her first 23 years
  7. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    She might need it if she ever has reason to use any of the documents at the Philippine Embassy in London Howerd, just guessing, they need it for bleedin everything over there.
  8. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    @oss But I thought red-ribboning was only for overseas use? Hence the reason red-ribboning is done by the DFA.
  9. Timmers
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    If your missus has UK NACRIC compare her degree then there is no need to actually have the certificate red ribboned as NARIC give you a unique number which prospective employers can use to access the NARIC site to prove the qualification is genuine, a red ribboned Diploma/Degree would be worthless on its own. The only way a educational certificate can be authenticated it with paperwork and seal from the university.

    By NARIC actually comparing the qualification they are in fact proving the authenticity of the certificate are they not?

    As you say Howerd, the old red ribboning is more of a Philippine thing and as oss says they could come in handy for any business at the Philippine Embassy.
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    Ana had to get all the red-ribboning done in Korea at the Philippine Embassy in Seoul for her Korean documents which have to go back to Manila first to Manila city hall and then the NSO.
  11. Timmers
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    They just love their red ribbons in the Philippines :)

    Am I correct in saying they are also used in legal documentation here in the UK?

    Or am I just thinking of Barristers walking into court with just the documents tied in red ribbon?
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  13. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    I see no mention on the NARIC website that they authenticate educational certificates. Given that NARIC are never in possession of the originals (you only send them photocopies) I don't see how the documents can be authenticated. I think NARIC mainly exists to produce a comparability report of the qualifications that a person claims to have. I think any authentication of the documents themselves is done completely independent of NARIC.

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