Theresa May states £18600 Income Threshold

When I was trying to bring my wife here, I did not think too much about party politics, I just worked all the hours I could.
I didn't think too much about the system and the problems we had to face, I just got on with earning more and proving to the eco that I could provide for her.
If I was under the threshold, I would find other work and perhaps get another job.
Work is out there if it is required. There are agencies everywhere offering work if there are willing people.
The country is full of Polish people who work without moaning, we have become too soft in this country, that is why many English have been replaced by Eastern Europeans.
Ask any agency boss who they prefer using........

I just don't get all the moaning, it will not help people to bring their wives here.
More work equals more money so if the problem for people is money, crack on and do something about it.
A second job or anything it takes to get it sorted, people make excuses for their lack of drive and initiative.

Well said.
I totally agree.

When we first arrived in UK way back in 2002 I found myself unemployed for quite some months. Very challenging times.
I eventually found a position in the civil service. That starting salary was not good.
I took on a part time job early morning at a local bakery. That took my hours to 47 per week.
I then took on another part time job with my local Sainsbury supermarket (on the Beers, Wines & Spirits section ) which took my hours up to 59 per week. I remember that each time I took on another job I needed to inform the Civil Service Dept I worked for to secure permission. They were quite particular about the type of work you could do. Also once I passed 48 hours per week I had to sign a working hours "waiver". In addition to that I had a monthly meeting with my manager specifically to determine if my extra hours had affected my performance or my health. But it was possible.
I did those hours for 3 years before being offered a promotion and package that meant I could drop some hours.

Those hours at minimum wage would just about scrape me home now at £18600
I don't know just how many employers would actually prevent that number of hours or that number of jobs. Well for me I enjoyed the work (to a point) but I got very tired.
I'd like to think if I was single I could still work those hours and maybe more. No "home relationship" to nurture.

I hadn't considered that some employers might prevent it nor how widepsread that might be . That's an important point.

Also these new rules do not benefit those who live with parents etc as the income level still needs to be met regardless of gross income

Hmm interesting

You have to figure it out for yourself, mate.
The bottom line is that it is only you who can do what you want to do, the rest is not really important.

The current minimum income requirements (Income Support level) are not discriminatory as a whole. But setting the limit at £18,600/year is certainly discriminatory for UK nationals at minimum wage levels (or substantially above in some cases) who have lived in the UK all their lives; they will simply be barred from bringing their non-EU wives/children to the UK.

EU nationals will still be free to bring their non-EU partner/spouse/children to the UK, without regard to any income limit and claim public funds upon landing on these shores. Even EU Nationals (except UK nationals) who are already residing in the UK can continue bring their partner/spouse/children to the UK without meeting any income requirements.

Much mention has been made that the new income rules would be a breach of article 8. Surely, we should also be looking at article 12 (right to marry and establish a family) and article 14 (prohibition of discrimination) These new income limits are only targeted at UK nationals with non EU families and, in my book, that is discrimination.

Looks like I might be one of the first to probably challenge this in court.

Posted an appeal via our barrister back in june/july time had the notification from the courts that the ukba have until January, to prepare their case for declining it or overturn their descision.

But coming up to 4 months now into that timeframe.. And no sign of descision getting overruled yet so this might end up as a court appeal.

So we are going to fight them on that because if it gets declined again and have to reapply its going to be harder under new rules.

Also going to try emailing that labour mp mentioned has anybody had a reply from him? Also I heard sometimes ed miliband replies to emails?

Traditionally I've been a Tories voter, haven't particularly liked labour.. But after the way they have screwed people like us over I probably won't be voting at all next time now.

The detail of that article was reported here in the forum along with the very fast response of the Home Office

Look here

and here

Did you get a refusal for a visa application submitted under the 'new rules' (implemented for all applications on and after July 9th) or the 'old rules ' ?

What was the reason for refusal? Financial/Income?

Your Fiance(e) Visa application was submitted and considered under the 'old rules'

Your refusal was not about income thresholds but based upon the ECO not being convinced of any evidence that there was an intention to marry in UK.
Additionally the ECO was not convinced there was adequate accommodation.

It's not clear on the 'primary' reason

For what it's worth (doubt it can help much right now) and imho I think your Immigration Barrister has some questions to answer in this.