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Toughest Place To Be A Bus Driver - Manila

Discussion in 'Culture and Food' started by Micawber, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Did anyone here watch "Toughest Place To Be A Bus Driver - Manila"
    BBC2 last night at 9:00pm??

    I did. I really enjoyed it and thought it a fascinating, enlightening and worthwhile documentary.
    Although it did contain some unavoidable and stereotypical Manila squatter area stuff, I did feel it was presented in a balanced way.

    Humorous, thought provoking and insightful are words that come to mind.

    The main theme of London Bus Driver (Josh) to Manila jeepney driver (Rogelio) held it all together nicely.
    The key, for me, was the growing respect and relationship between the two of them.

    Josh happened to be a naturally funny and large guy with an equally large heart.
    He struggled with his main task of driving, and struggled even more as the witness to grinding poverty and the eating of the P5 pagpag meal amongst a vast ocean of smiling faces.

    Humbling stuff. Highly recommended.

    Watch it here on BBC iPlayer:-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00z08wd/Toughest_place_to_be_a..._Bus_Driver/
  2. yuna
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    yuna Cat Lover Staff Member

    cant watch... it says 'not available in your area' :cry::badpc::cry:
  3. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Oh, just noticed you are in Makati. Sorry yuna.
    To watch BBC iPlayer you need a UK IP address.

    If you know how to access a UK proxy server you could do it. Wish I was techie enough to help, but I'm not.
    Maybe someone here knows?
    If it's allowed?
    Maybe a torrent is already out there.
    It's worth the effort.
  4. walesrob
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    walesrob Administrator Staff Member

    Just watched it now, the bit about the pagpag meal was heartbreaking to say the least, its shameful how we in the UK throw away millions of pounds of perfectly good food all in the name of health and safety/food hygenie, etc.
  5. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    I thought the same.
    Then I recalled that there are some charities here in UK who distribute so called 'out of date' food to those in need. I know it's not really the same at all though as the food is still in original packaging.

    What was your overall opinion of the documentary?
  6. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    cant see it either proxy doesnt work with globe wimax as its already a proxy between the ariel and the phone network
  7. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    Am I allowed to post some potential UK proxy servers??
  8. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    I'm still wondering if I would ever choose to try that pagpag. I've eaten some strange and wonderous things in my time but..... pagpag.
    Even just for the experience..................I think I would not.
    As walesrob said, it's heartbreaking. Honestly.
  9. walesrob
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    walesrob Administrator Staff Member

    The programme didn't surprise me at all, I've seen at first hand the sheer poverty not only in Manila but in Tacloban. Overall, the documentary was very true to the cause - it showed exactly how life is in Manila, the poverty, the crowds, the mess, everything.
  10. walesrob
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    walesrob Administrator Staff Member

    A google search for uk proxy server free should do the trick. Say no more.
  11. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    I knew it was on, but I only found it as I was channel hopping, during some other channel adverts, as one does when the asawa ain't looking...
    Only missed the first 10 minutes as it was, which I can catch on iplayer on another day.

    I knew more orl less what to expect as poverty goes, as I did see some right bad stuff in and around Cebu, but I was still shocked by the programme.

    Josh, was magnificent in his modesty, and well disguised guilty complex, he did manage to bring a tear or three to my eyes when he got really emotional and visibly crying out of sheer powerlessness and frustration.
    The programme makers could not have picked a better and more congenial person to front the documentary, all in all, the hundred odd quid licence fee were well worth paying, if for just this one example of decent TV making.
    I did hear of pag-pag, but never imagined how popular it was until I saw it on TV last night.
    Emotional, great, a real eye opener for people that doesn't bother thinking about 3rd world nations.
  12. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    Well what can I say other than it was a real eye opener. I have seen the poverty in Cebu and in Mindanao, but I was mostly sheilded from it as I really only got to see some of these shanty towns as we drove past them. And the people were the beggars who stopped me as I came out of Jollibee...

    I think next time I am there I will upset Rizza when I give in to a few more beggars, or better still buy a few burgers extra and give them to the kids outside..

    Something tells me that Rogelio now owns that Jeepney outright, Josh came away from that experience wanting to help his new friend and I would bet that paying off the loan to the Jeepney company would be something he would have done. As noted before, Josh has a huge heart and I could see it from the start when he was with his family for his going away party. Who knows, one of us might bump into Josh in the future at Manila airport when he returns with his family....

    I kind of feel happier also that Rizza does not come from the slums, her family are not rich but manage to take care of things. And her grandparents home is bigger than most of the places I have lived in, and with some land around it for plantations and livestock:like:
  13. Micawber
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    My wife comes from a large family spread throughout the Philippines, though mostly concentrated in Mindanao around Davao bay.
    Probably like most families there are the 'haves' and the 'have-nots'. At the outer edges of the family there are rich and very poor. None that I know of are living in the heartrending poverty of city slums/squatter area.
    But having said that, many of her family are living 'on the edge' economically speaking. Those with high level educations do much much better than those without. That's why we do all we can to provide good education to those with potential and motivation. It's tough when making the decision who to sponsor and who not.
    Anyway, those who we have helped have generally put back something into the wider family.

    Whenever we go out to eat we always try to take out whatever is left. This can be given to kids as we make our way back home. Often people will tell us the kids are all organised by gangs, which may or may not be true, but we still give.
  14. florgeW
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    there are loads of local (Pinas) documentaries about similar topics (poverty) in Pinas... and it is still frustrating to see that nothing has changed! it was still the same 13 years ago when in uni, my class produced a documentary about the same topic... same old, same old... and yet, most pinoys would still say that Pinas is not poor... mama mia!!! are we blind?

    I guess the way forward is to accept that we are poor.. Pinas may not be as poor as bangladesh or milawi, but we are poor!!! our economy can't simply feed the entire nation and can't provide the benefits that we all deserve. we cannot justify the "richness" of Pinas by saying that there are still loads of people in malls, and that malls in Pinas are better than the malls here, or that you can see loads of luxury cars in Makati... well, that only comprise of a small percentage of the entire population...
  15. Kuya
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    The simple way out of poverty is to total and complete emancipation of women, giving them full rights over their careers and reproductive abilities. From that documentary one thing I came away with is the sight of women who are stuck to a life of producing more and more children that they struggle to support:mad:

    They really need to pass that law giving free contraception:like:
  16. Kuya
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    And for none UK residents here is the YouTube version... Uploaded, ooh, an hour ago:like: Split into 6 10 minute parts;)

    Part 1


    Part 2


    Part 3


    Part 4


    Part 5


    Part 6
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2014
  17. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    free contraceptives are available the coil and condoms its the education and motivation thats missing the seperation of men and women here emotionaly is huge:(
  18. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    That's a perceptive observation.
    I do believe that women may be the key to impacting:-

    The massive population explosion that cancels out most of the economic gains. (This is really not helped by the continuing dogma of the Catholic Church.)

    The hugh number of people unable to find or create jobs because there is just no finance available for them to participate in any form of education.

    A deep rooted social pattern of elitism that practises extreme exploitation of the proletariat

    Endemic corruption and favouritism
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  19. Micawber
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    Micawber Renowned Lifetime Member

    I watched this program again last night and still found it an extraordinary and compulsive documentary.

    My life has been blessed in that I managed to work, travel and live in many places around the world for most of my life, When I think about the all years and all the tears, I considered myself somewhat immune to in-you-face poverty.

    But this documentary has really gotten under my skin. Just makes me wonder what keeps these people going, what is it makes them get out of bed every morning and go out and do whatever they do, when they pretty much know that life simply isn't going to get any better for them.

    I feel so lucky to simply to be alive and healthy, just by a chance of being born in the right place, and now keep thinking if these people ever see the beauty that is all around them and whether their whole world has any real joy.?
    Seeing the kid's eyes light up and the smiles on their faces, I believe that beauty and joy is there in abundance .. amazing

    Can beauty and poverty exist side by side? (Mmm Maybe a new thread topic coming on)

    Sometimes the world is such a sad bad place.
  20. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    In May 1980, the cruiseship I was working on, docked in Acapulco.
    Doing the touristy thingy during afternoon work breaks, we went around, and found ourselves in places well outside the beaten track.
    I thought I had seen poverty and despair to last me a lifetime, until I arrived in Cebu...

    By the look of things, it seems that Manila does beat anything of the sort that I have witnessed in my life.

    And me too, because of geographical luck, in where I was born, I cannot help feeling slightly guilty for it.

    We do help, somehow, when the circumstances allow.

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