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Trying to marry a Filipino girl

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Mike Lowbridge, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Probably means Pesos.
  2. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Yes, that looks like about the right rate for an annulment. It can be done much cheaper, but only if the circumstances are very favourable (my sister in law's case was one such) and only if there is no long nose tax.
  3. bigmac
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    no long nose tax
    ???? kindly enlighten us
  4. Methersgate
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    "Long nose tax" - the increase in the cost of everything if the customer is a Caucasian. For example, the cost of bottled water bought by K went up from 90 pesos to 105 pesos when the deliveryman saw me. "That", she said, "Is the Long Nose Tax because he saw you are here!"

    This is why you should never, ever, embark on any financial transaction yourself. Always ask a trusted Filipino/Filipina friend to negotiate for you.
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  5. bigmac
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    aah right. i had been advised my partners annulment fees would shoot up if it were known i was in the picture
  6. Timmers
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    You were wisely advised bigmac.
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  7. Timmers
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    Hello Mike and welcome to British Filipino, hope the annulment goes to plan and doesn't drag out, my now wife got an annulment, takes a while and a wad of notes, will all depend on your brief how long and how much it will finally cost you.
  8. Methersgate
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    These are very murky waters; an annulment is a matter of canon law, not common law.

    The husband has to consent. Should he be aware that there is a foreigner in the picture, his consent will become expensive - after all, he is concerned for his tender conscience and for his immortal soul.

    The grounds for annulment seem weird to moderrn eyes - "impediment" - such as one party was already married - or "invalid consent" - one party was not in their right mind - etc.

    Henry VIII wanted an annulment - not a divorce - from Katherine of Aragon on the grounds that she had been validly married to his brother... that is the world we are in, here.
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  9. bigmac
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    The husband has to consent

    ive heard the going rate is a million pp
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  10. Timmers
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    As you mentioned in your earlier post Andrew, a lot depends on the ex husband and family, it is this that will ultimately determine the cost and the length of the legal process. Its probably true to say that there is no such thing as a standard annulment, they are all going to differ. Its probably for this reason that we struggle talking about annulments on this forum, annulments are like fingerprints, no two are the same
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  11. Timmers
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    It would be good if we could post a process here at BF setting out the steps you have to take to get the annulment done, but I'm afraid it will not happen, too many variables between cases.
  12. Methersgate
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    Timmers is quite right, the whole business is imponderable, but I would like to gently sketch in some "don'ts"...

    "I want to marry someone else" is probably the worst thing you can say.

    Apart from "I want to marry a foreigner!"

    Some general guidance in Wikipedia, here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annulment#Catholicism
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  13. Timmers
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    I know for a fact it can be done without his consent, without him even knowing, that's what happened in my wife's case, the ex had gone to the US and they hadn't had any contact for years (which is the key I believe).
  14. bigmac
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    i had heard if the "defendant" has colluded in the application--it is likely to be thrown out
  15. Timmers
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    As you know bigmac, everything to do with annulments is a grey area, there appears to be nothing set in stone as to the process, I remember the wife explaining to me the reasons you can use to obtain the annulment and it was all so complicated that I didn't understand and she couldn't hold my attention :)

    I'm just glad she got hers a few years before we needed it.

    I just hope that an annulment does not put anyone off entering into a relationship with a girl that requires an annulment but I bet it does.
  16. Methersgate
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    K's family and friends were at great pains to tell me that she really was single, when we started "dating". I see why. But you can't demand a Cenomar on the first date! ;)
  17. bigmac
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    I just hope that an annulment does not put anyone off entering into a relationship with a girl that requires an annulment but I bet it does.

    when i started seeing my lady--in 2011---i hadnt a clue about it all. if i knew then what i know now etc......i cant believe it was that long ago. pre july 2012 and all those complications.
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    It would put me off for sure. Plenty of young single women from the Provence, why get involved with a married girl.:rolleyes:
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  19. Nickel
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    Hi Mike , i have a nephew who is an RTC judge and at one point i had a friend who consulted him about this and accdg. to him, so far the fastest annulment process granting that both parties would cooperate wholly ,takes not less that 6 months and at 250k to 350k pesos.You better check out every angle first because there is only one approved ground for annulment......... "mentally incapacitated" (detailed) Please check this out and discuss first before proceeding, hope this helps .
    Philippine Laws on Divorce, Separation & Annulment .
    Annulment
    Article 45 of Philippine family law establishes the allowable grounds for annulment. A marriage can be annulled if one spouse wasn't mentally sound at the time of the marriage or was forced into it, unless she continued living as husband and wife after regaining mental competence or the threat of force disappeared. Fraud on behalf of either spouse when agreeing to marry is grounds for annulment, as well as the discovery of an incurable sexually transmitted disease or permanent impotence. If either spouse was over 18, but not yet 21, and got married without parental consent, the marriage can be annulled if the parties no longer lived together as husband and wife once the spouse turned 21.
    Considerations
    According to Article 46, fraud that can lead to annulment includes a spouse who hid a drug problem, an alcohol addiction, homosexuality or a sexually transmitted disease. Deception involving chastity, money, station in life or moral character isn't grounds for annulment under fraud. If a person remarried because she believed her prior spouse was dead, the bigamy void might not apply, and the second marriage could be upheld. The prior spouse must be absent for at least four years for the second marriage to be valid, but only two years is needed if there's reason to believe he's dead, such as an accident. To preserve the marriage if the missing spouse reappears, the remarried spouse must also have had the first marriage declared annulled or voided in court during the prior spouse's absence. Article 213 places a custody stipulation on legal separation cases. Unless the mother is an unfit parent, she receives custody if the child is under 7. Otherwise, the innocent spouse, or the spouse who filed for separation, gets custody, providing she is fit.


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  20. Methersgate
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    Nickel's answer is the best
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