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UK population increases by 500,000

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by Timmers, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Anon220806
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    Easily done though. I was on my iphone the other day and am sure I gave someone a dumb rating by mistake, but couldnt work out who. Easily done when scrolling through.
  2. Timmers
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    I can well believe that, another option, very doable and plausible without a doubt.

    Which ever way I look at the Philippines it still comes down to health for me, I'm pretty confident I will be stopping in Blighty, but as I said earlier, plans change.
  3. Anon220806
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    Agreed.
  4. oss
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    Yes I am sorry mate, fat fingers again, pretty hard to get drunk on Tetley's mild, have switched to the laptop which is a much more precise instrument, I really hate data input on a Tablet. :)
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    Easy to catch a "button" when your finger slides down the screen.
  6. oss
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    I know a nice Scot named Sammy (70 or so years old) who is living less than 50 yards from where Ana grew up in Paranaque, he had been in Australia for donkey's years but came to the Phils to make his money stretch, I think he was on a pension of only about 30,000 PHP a month from Australia, but he was happy and was slowly building a house in the province for his girlfriend.

    It can be done, if you have reasonable expectations, it was really nice to hear a Scottish voice in Paranaque not something that happens every day :)
  7. oss
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    Yeah true but remember that it is Ana and the kids, means higher rent here, huge investment in flights and in visa's for Ana and James and I am borderline about making that investment now as my personal timelines are starting to point in the other direction.

    Two kids at school in the UK will restrict what kinds of work Ana could take in the event of us getting a spouse visa, (not even thought about the cost or planning of a wedding over there on top of the rest!).

    If everyone comes here I won't escape the UK till I am 70, Janna will be at Uni, when I am 69 for example.

    Ok do I sound selfish, well yes I do and I am, but you have no idea how much I poured into that country over the last decade, within the next 3 days (yes Sunday) we will know if we finally have all the documents she needs, she had to go to Wan-do island today to the province her ex husband was born in to obtain her "Confirmation of divorce" copy, in the last few days that whole process has cost me over 600 quid, Wan-do is an island that is about as far from Seoul as you can possibly get, she had to go by bus, hire an interpreter (a Filipina that spoke good Korean) then another bus then a taxi, then there was no return bus so she spent 8 hours going on a magical mystery tour to get back to Seoul.

    Why did she have to go that far. well the local court in Incheon destroyed all copies of documents back in 2000, she's been trying to fix these papers for 18 years, married 1995 divorced in 1997, and every time she does a damn thing in relation to this process she becomes a non functioning emotional wreck, something I am getting really tired of I'm afraid :(

    Tomorrow translator and notary, then MOFA (Korean gov office) in Seoul, then Sunday Philippine Embassy in Seoul to Red Ribbon the translated notarised documents as she puts it.

    Three separate docs required for Manila City hall and the NSO (she got family register and other docs) probably translation on each, and potentially require each to be notarised.

    And at the end of it there is still a chance that the NSO or Manila City Hall could say something is still not right, our Philippine court Documents are getting old and they don't keep proper file copies either, so who knows.

    Me I am tired, if I get this done then I have fulfilled all my original goals for her, the future is then open.
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    And if I were a foreigner, trying to navigate our UK legal system to get a chance of a fractionally better life if I was able to work hard in a country like the UK, would I take the chance, yeah probably I would.

    When you see the barriers that countries put in place now it is easy to see the frustration and why they want to get the hell away from the devil they currently know.
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  9. Timmers
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    Well oss that sounds a real merry go round to beat all others, it doesn't sound like very much of the process is actually in your hands at all, I can well understand your frustration especially with the length of time it is all taking. There is nothing worse than some stranger having your life in their hands and you can do nothing or very little about it, you're in a situation that I wouldn't like to find myself in, it would stress the hell out of me it really would. Its like an annulment but much worst.

    I hope you can get it straightened out eventually, imagine the relief when you do get it sorted, you'll be drinking more than a pint of Tetley's mild.
  10. Anon220806
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    My wife and I have been discussing our daughters education. She will start in October 2017 at the age of 4 yrs 11 months. In the runup to that she will get a subsidy on a years worth of nursery school, 3 afternoons a week. After that it is free education all the way till she is 18. My wife has only really realised this now. I think she thought we would have to pay something.

    Also, as I am getting older, have become more dependent on the NHS. But not only that, my wife has seen the value of it being free at the point of use, for all 3 of us. Dental fees excepting for us adults. It is clear that there are big benefits to staying in the UK. Though, sure, there are some tradeoffs by staying here.

    I read today that Davao is the 5th safest city in the world. But one of the reasons people like the Isle of Man is that it is also very safe compared to the rest of the UK mainland. My wife can see that, she knows that now. Again, there are tradeoffs.
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    Yeah supposed to be easier than an annulment, but her lawyer in the Philippine in 2000 had lost the one important document she needed before I met her in 2004, basically because she had run out of money after her savings she brought back from Korea were done.

    That is what she got a copy of today, still required in Manila even though she has a court case from 2012 in the Phils that agrees she is single.

    I've put far more into this than an annulment would have cost over the years and of course life goes on.
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    Yeah I am well aware of all that, and it goes through my mind too, NHS is strong argument, and possibly the only one that matters to me, our exposure to the unknown over there is terrible right now.
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    Both my kids have been in paid education since the age of three, not something that would normally happen over there but I can certainly see the benefit my son has had from it, his english is getting really good now, not hugely expensive either.
  14. Anon220806
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    Yes. My wife explained that it isnt expensive, even though it isnt free.
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    Same for my wifes nephew and his English is good now.
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    Oh and she flies back to the Philippines on Tuesday so we were on a leash time wise :) Janna is seven on the 5th.
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    Replying to myself :)

    In 2004-5 Ana wanted to go back to that lawyer because he was the one with her papers, in spite of me telling her at the time that he would probably have lost everything she insisted, I was looking round his office at the truly sh*t filing system his employee's were implementing, thinking, no freaking chance he can do a damn thing for us. Didn't stop him charging us edit: not 50 but 500 quid and wasting nearly two years on jumping through NBI, NSO, City hall and other hoops for nothing, couple of years later his business had gone under.

    It was only in 2007 that we met some really good guys in the Korean Embassy in Manila who realised that she was a Korean citizen and needed that sorted, they did that for us and became good family friends of ours, there are a lot of clever smart decent Filipinos out there, we were lucky to meet some.

    They also got her Philippine citizenship back for her too, although without the current set of papers re the divorce she still can't get a Philippine passport in her own name, so she travels to this day on her Korean passport.
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    Maybe that's why I have a carousel - ferris wheel as an avatar :D round and round and round :D

    And I alternate between blonde beer's and mild, but I prefer a nice pint of mild :)
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    I'd be drinking too if I was in your position, always disappoints me when I hear of bent lawyers and people putting barriers up to prevent you from reaching your goal.

    A country where you cannot trust the police and the legal system isn't a place I want to be.

    Have another drink or two oss, you know it makes sense :like:
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    I drink more than I should even though I never ever bounce off walls or pavements, and my blood pressure (for a very overweight man) was 120 over 80 two weeks ago, my good cholesterol is very good (double what it needs to be) and my bad cholesterol is very good too more or less perfect. My liver function blood test is perfect as is every other blood test result they can do and they have taken a lot of blood :) and a recent CT Virtual Colonoscopy scan says I have normal kidneys, liver, pancreas, adrenal glands and and bowel, oh and my lungs are ok too, no free fluids etc. etc.

    So why do I feel like sh*t :D

    I've not gone public on this until now and I have been a bit scared, in theory though I have to trust the results, not least because the blood results back up the star trek scanner :)

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