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UK Spouse visa deferred.

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Dave C, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Dave C
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    Dave C Member Trusted Member

    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to get some feed back from other members here as to why the UKBA ECO would deferre my wifes visa application via email and asking her to provide them with my childrens birth certificates (Me being the sponsor)?

    During the filling out of the financial requirement it asks does your sponsor have any children with you or that are British citizens, their passport number and date of birth.

    It also states;
    • Children who are British Citizens or not subject to UK Immigration Control do not need to be considered when calculating the financial requirement.

    So should I be worried or not?

    In my eyes, I am thinking the ECO is wanting proof of my children and that they are indeed born in the UK, just to make sure I am not trying to smuggle a child from my wife into the UK.

    Would you think this is correct, because as far as I was concerned I had provided all of the relevant documents stated by them from their website and documents stated by the VFS at the application center and their advisory boards.

    Feedback would be nice and other peoples thoughts.

    Thanks.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  2. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Well, Dave, I dont have any experience of bringing children back to the UK so I cant be of much help but would say that at least the ECO is giving yourselves an opportunity to continue the application process and not simply shutting it down which they have been known to do.

    I would say dont be worried if you can provide the supporting materials that they ask for, asap. Did they give you a time frame?

    It will be interesting to see what one or two of the other members have to say.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  3. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I would imagine that, as you say, they just want roof that they are British citizens. It's good you weren't refused. Wrong person on the wrong day might have refused it and you would have needed to appeal.

    How's Taguig city these day? I miss the place!
  4. Dave C
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    Dave C Member Trusted Member

    Hey John,

    Sorry if my question was misleading.
    I meant I have 3 children that were born to a British citizen and have been in the UK all of their lives. The last child I had was that of being 12 years prior to ever coming over here in the Philippines and being married.

    I have been living with my wife since January last year and have been living as husband and wife for a year now here in the Philippines.
    We only got Married in March 2013.

    Thanks for the positive feedback though, appreciated it!
  5. Anon220806
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    Ah, I see. Well, I also have two children who are British citizens and here in the UK all their lives, from a previous marriage. I was advised to put down their details including DOB etc but have never been sure why. We didn't submit their birth certificates though.

    The UKBA, when they process visas, do not appear to work to a completely standard approach so one ECO might pick up on something that another might let go. In your case the ECO appears to have decided he wants proof and is giving you the opportunity to do that. Alternatively, they just may be getting a little stricter compared with when my wife applied 2 years ago. Hope that helps.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  6. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Its been a while since I made our application but I don't recall them asking for my British daughters passport number. I don't see the relevance of that to the application
  7. Dave C
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    Dave C Member Trusted Member

    Marharg,

    Thanks for the feed back!
    In regards to Taguig. Taguig city is getting bigger by the minute as more and more people are flocking to Mainla looking for work, as normal. It is still full of litter and increasing.
    The Mayor of Taguig has introduced a new scheme for those who wish to sell goods and have a store or business. People are now required to register with their local barangay for a business permit by Feb this year, if they do not, then they are forced to close down by the barangay for having an illegal business. The cost for the permit is 200 piso per year.
    South Bicutan Market is getting worse, when I say worse, I mean it is getting more and more dirty and fuller! If that makes sense, with more homeless people hanging around the outside of it, looking for any opportunity they can to obtain stuff and shabu is on the increase within the local squats.
    I think if you come back here for a visit, you will become overwhelmed by the people you wont know and how rude people are getting here, even I have noticed that in such a short time being here.
  8. Dave C
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    Dave C Member Trusted Member

    Thanks again John for your supportive advice.

    Hey HaloHalo,

    I have to admit, I was even struggling around that one, myself!
    I really did not see the relevance in it, but if that is what they want, so be it!
  9. Anon220806
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    That's what I thought. I couldn't see why they wanted my children's details at all and questioned it with the agent that I used at the time. They said just do it! So I did.
  10. Anon220806
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    Looking back, I did wonder if I would be asked to submit my childrens birth certificates, which bothered me as I just knew my ex wife would make it difficult for me to get access to them. Fortunately for us we were not asked for them.
  11. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    Most definitely. I'm glad they've given you the opportunity to provide the supporting documentation :) Good Luck
  12. KeithAngel
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Hard to say what goes on in the minds of an ECO perhaps they are just checking on any financial outgoings for your other kids? But really i have no idea
  13. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    Personally I think the ECOs spend their time :vhappy: :cheer::cheer::dream::blah:



    :D
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  14. Dave C
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    Well Guys,

    I have had to get my Mum back home to get hold of two of my sons birth certificates, as asking their mother for it would be like trying to clean sharks teeth!
    An email with all 3 of my sons birth certificates have been emailed and faxed off to them with the help of my son.
    The time scale I received from last Friday was 5 working days.
    So it is just wait and see time now.
  15. Anon220806
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    LOL I know the feeling.

    OK good luck.
  16. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Even when applying for my daughters Birth Registration and Passport nearly 6 years ago they asked for birth certificates of all other siblings, they are checking that kids are all yours and that there is not additional baggage in the relationship, this is counter to the official regulations but the consul told me that was their reasoning at the time.

    I am guessing but I suspect in your case it is a similar reason.
  17. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    Financial outgoings don't matter any more, what matters is the minimum requirement. And British children are except from the requirements. So, if you had a Philippine wife and 3 Children who are British citizens then you only need show you earn £18,600.00.
  18. Dave C
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    Hey Guys, I have an update now!

    Talk about bang your head against the wall!
    My Parents sent 2 emails as listed by the UKBA here in Manila to the deferrals, once on Wednesday 8th and another on Thursday 9th January 2014.
    My Mother also tried to send a fax as a back up and the first time she tried she got a voice message saying that their offices are now closed, due to the time difference in the UK. The second time she tried the offices were open, but the phone just rang and rang and then cut off!

    Today we have had the UKBA ECO telephone my wife asking if we have sent the documents. My wife said yes we have and told them it was done through a 3rd party, as I am unable to do it being here in the Philippines.
    Then next we have the ECO tells my wife is that they have had no email from my mother in regards to the matter at hand and they have not sent back an acknowledgement either, yet I have an acknowledgement email from my mother saying different from their offices!
    So today, I have also sent 4 emails saying the same with scanned copies of my sons birth certificates. The first time I sent the email was at 2pm EST.
    I received an email telling me that no one was in the office!
    WTF!! No one in the office at 2pm?

    Not sure what to do now! The ECO apparently did say she would give us an extension of time till 17th January!

    More fun in the Philippines? Nope! :cry:
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2014
  19. Anon220806
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    Looks like you need to email them in batches, like carpet bombing!
  20. Dave C
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    Hey John,

    You would not believe it, well maybe you would!
    After sending them 6 emails eventually over the weekend I received a reply by the deferral team that they have acknowledged the emails.
    Since then on Tuesday I got awoken by the ECO on the telephone asking me if I had ever been married before?
    My reply was quite shocked as apparently I have been married before to a woman called Miss Bordeux in St.Albans.
    I told him that at no time have I ever been married and that this was the very first time I had ever been married.
    He then asked me if I was ever married to my childrens mothers. My reply was of course, no.
    Well I have to tell you, that it would have saved him money on the phone call if only he had gone over to the consulate files where I lodged a transfer of, my original certificate of non impediment with them back in February 2013.

    Still our hopes are high for my wife to get her visa, but seeming what we have been through to get it and the outcome of their so called investigations, who knows what is going to happen next!
    Fingers crossed.

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