UK vs Philippines Approach to Gay and Trans People

Interesting, my GF is trans and lives in the Cayman

max--can you clarify-- isyour g/f now a female that was born male ? ----or vice-versa?

Respect the religious but not the gays?

I think this thread shows the different views we all have, I think I can speak for you and say we are sharing our honest views and say what we think on the subject, and why not?

Religion to many is much mightier than the gays.

But surely we should respect the minority too? This isn't a vote or democracy in hand. It's people who are just as equal in life to you or I. Just like someone who practices faith, or not.

As Bob Dylan once said, Times are a changin'.

She was born a male but lives as a female. She still has all her wedding tackle ( to draw a pun from the subject matter )

Being in a minority is just like any minority, you don't get a fair crack of the whip.

"Times are a changing," not where I'm from

I have nothing against the gay community, for many years my local pub which I frequented on a very very regular basis when not working abroad had a couple of gay chaps as landlords, we used to go out with them on occasion and had a whale of a time. They were what I call ordinary gays, as in you wouldn't have known they were gay until they told you, fitted in extremely well and widely accepted in the local community, in fact only the other week I went to see them in Rochdale where they now have another pub.

We enjoy puns and witty banter

can i ask--do you think she would go the full transgender route if it were affordable ? and if so--how would it affect you?

I think the point is respect though not necessary have to agree as you say. Times are changing and religion needs to keep up as it can no longer set the pace in modern FB society. Even as an atheist I see the great benefit religion at a local level brings to many people. My GF is in church every Sunday and has a very strong faith. The thing that prevents her working in Phil is that she cannotbe married there. I do feel a sad for gay people who have a strong faith but also not every church is the same and hopefully, like my GF, they can find an understand priest and flock.

Its as much beholden an the LGBT community to be understanding of religious beliefs as the other way way round in my opinion but as I said, marriage is a contract, which explains why you need lawyers to get out of it.

of course homosexual people are equal--just the same as left handed or of a different ethnic ancestry. but--at the end of it all--a homosexual couple cant make babies ( without 3rd party involvement) so i cant see how they can get married. in a way--its a bit like black people trying to become white . whats wrong with their natural colour ?

Great question and a conversation we have had. I don't want her to and she does not want to at the moment. If she did, then it would depend on where we were at the time. Couples survive terrrible trauma such as paralysis etc and stay together because of their love. Whilst this is not a terrible trauma, if our love is strong enough then it should be okay.

Should infertile couples be made to divorce?

There was a very interesting programme on TV a while back following British chaps in Thailand with transgender partners, I remember that it can have a adverse psychological effect on some people having the operation to remove their wedding tackle, better keeping things as intended if both parties are happy with that.

the only transgendered people ive ever seen--in real life not on video--clearly looked like a male dressed as a female--and heavily made up . do you think your g/f looks female ?

no--not made to--but it should be grounds for divorce if both agree.

my 2nd wifes 1st marriage ended because her 1st husband was impotent.

If you watched the same programme as me on transgender people in Thailand I can honestly say they look like beautiful girls, but as you say, I have seen quite a few in this country who look like they are in drag, maybe that's their intention in some cases.

Being impotent in the Philippines is grounds for annulment in the Philippines as you say, I think.

ah--a misunderstanding. its my 4th wife thats pinay.
my 2nd wife--married leap year day 1984--died in 2007.

i meant--in the UK i think an infertile couple should be allowed to divorce if they want to.

my 2nd wifes 1st husband left her so she could divorce him and find a new bloke--thats where i came into the picture. in fact--he sort of set us up. lol.

I beleive Henry the VIII despatched several wives on the grounds of no son and heir