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Whipster RIP

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by oss, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. oss
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    Without some kind of confirmation or source of this UK News I'm not going to make this a memorial thread.

    @PorkAdobo has informed us of the passing of this ex member of the site and this has raised some curiosity as a result, I would like to explain a little history.

    On joining in 2016 Whipster was immediately identified by Markham as being an undesirable character, the allegations were that the person behind the alias was a sex tourist who had for many years had a lifestyle consisting of spending a few months in the UK earning and then a lot of the rest of the year living and travelling as cheaply as he could in the Philippines, I think in the southern parts of the country mostly, basically bumming around and picking up girls.

    He had clearly spent a lot of time there he knew a lot about the country.

    Regards the banning, the reality is that he was picked on from day one by Markham and there was pressure from that direction, behind the scenes, direct pressure on me to get rid of him.

    Markham and Whipster had a history of arguments on another large Philippine forum I don't know if they ever crossed paths in real life nor do I know if there was any other personal grudge between them but in the end Markham pushed Whipster to the point where he essentially accused everyone on this site of being the equivalent of sex tourist paedophiles and at that point his fate was sealed, I think it was me that actually banned him, I might not have done so had Markham not been telling these stories in the background.

    Today I managed to find the guy's Facebook page, he has not posted there since 2016, the mods here have the privilege of having a little bit of extra information that you can't see that can sometimes help with tracing people elsewhere on the net.

    His Facebook page suggests he actually worked over there possibly for a multinational at some point from the few photos my guess is he was/is mid to late 40s maybe early 50s.

    On reflection I am not sure I did the right thing banning him back then although I do think he would have gotten into some abusive arguments, my choice at the time was heavily influenced by Markham's words in my ear.

    I noticed Keith ticked PorkAdobo's post on the other thread, from memory Keith was on that forum and would have been familiar with Whipster's writings there but I think Keith probably also was perfectly happy about the way Whipster stressed out Markham :)

    Forums even small ones like this have a lot of personality clashes and Whipster did not deserve to be banned just because of his lifestyle choices, one could equally have applied logic like that much earlier to Markham, a person who made a failed investment in a loan shark business exploiting Filipinos and run by an American (who is now dead), an American who ran off with the investment cash and left people like Markham in the lurch.

    For the record Markham posted openly on here about that investment he never denied it.

    Keith knows the details of all this stuff as this is ancient history now but I doubt he will break his silence.

    If this chap has passed away then my condolences to his family and friends but I have no way of knowing if he has passed.
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  2. Anon220806
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    Some of the allegations made on here about this guy were amazing and I had no idea if they were true or not. I do know that there have been members that have enjoyed the sport of picking on other members in a manner not remotely different from the story called Lord of the Flies. It doesn’t seem to happen so much now. But my sixth sense at the time was that Whipster was the victim of such sport and not necessarily the character he was portrayed by some.
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  3. Druk1
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    Who is Markham, more importantly why did he want the other guy banned? Forum politics eh :rolleyes:
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    I always say speak to people on here or anywhere online EXACTLY as you would speak to them face to face :) I liked the book lord of the flies :like:
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    Cracking question. We all have Filipina wives, but that’s where the similarity stops. That being the case all colours of the rainbow join the forum with backgrounds and interests that can be so radically different that we might never meet in normal life outside the forum. Friction sets in along with tribalism.
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  6. oss
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    I saw his history and conflicts on another forum John, and his Facebook page backs up the lifestyle to some extent, but that alone should not have convinced me to ban him.
  7. PorkAdobo
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    It's difficult to know with 100% certainty if a character who existed only online is truly dead. It's probably not beyond the realms that someone might want to distance themselves from a previous character set, "kill it off" and start afresh. I say "character" as most people are generally quite different in real life than they are in front of a keyboard.

    Here was one report of his passing:

    https://www.livingincebuforums.com/topic/115985-whippy-udonthani-dead-at-48/

    I did read it somewhere else but for the life of me I can't remember where.

    Main thing I remember of that guy is give him a motorbike, 1000 php, a stash of Toblerone and a room in the Visayas with a microwave and he would be the happiest dude on the planet. Didn't have the most pleasant attitude online but forums sometimes benefit from having the antagonist, especially one who doesn't go after other users.
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  8. oss
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    You were here when Markham was still here, at least I think you were here.

    I banned him, interestingly we appear to have had a robot sampling many of his old threads from the location he moved to in the Mediterranean, I blocked the IP address recently it was going round and round over the same threads constantly.
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    Sounds like whippy was piggy and Markham was Roger :eek:
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    Don't remember him so probably never had any interaction with him.
  11. oss
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    That's a pretty good epitaph :D

    He had the Toblerone on his Facebook page :D

    He used the udonthani alias on here too.
  12. oss
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    Fair enough, makes interesting reading from the people who actually knew him and met him.

    R.I.P. Crad.
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    This is why he was called Mr Whippy I guess :) Screenshot_20210922_210156.jpg
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    The story was that he would come back to the UK to earn money selling ice cream to pay for his time in the cheapest hotels possible back in the Philippines.

    The LinC forum suggests he passed from cancer before the pandemic.

    Just found him on Quora (26) David Renshav - Quora that's not his real name.

    edit: although his other name does not look real either.
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    And there might have been a double entendre :)
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    i didnt know markham was banned--i thought he left around the same time as the other 2 who were banned.

    i recall the name whipster..but didnt he have other usernames too ?
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    I banned Markham, I finally woke up.

    He shows as Guest because I made it impossible for his account to ever be restored, just the way the software works when an account is deleted.

    udonthani was one of Whipster's other aliases
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    Markham and Whipster had history on LinC it was more the case that he really didn't want Whipster on this site, the details I don't know possibly personal history I really don't know.
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    Thanks for this update!
  20. oss
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    I hadn't read to the end of the LinC thread, they reveal his real name and Facebook page, I guess you found that earlier.

    Crad Renshaw was his name and his Facebook page was here https://www.facebook.com/crad.renshaw I had worked it out separately.

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