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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    First thing I noticed about her,blue eyes :)
  2. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    That is certainly very very rare.
  3. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    E-Bay contact lens baby blues :D I saw grey eyed afghani and Pakistani, a green eyed Caribbean but never a blue eyed pinay.
  4. oss
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    I did wonder, but looking at the pupil dilation it is hard to see how they would work, however it's not genetically impossible to have a blue eyed Filipino just very very unlikely.

    Ana was disappointed that Janna did not have blue eyes, I have green grey with a touch of blue.
  5. Druk1
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    She doesn't look pure pinay, very white complexion, rounded malay/Chinese looking face, but I will be willing to bet a thousand quid they are contacts, and confidently expect to walk away from the table with 2 grand in my pocket, you can get those contacts cheap in the Philippines, my nephews girlfriends sis always wears them.
  6. Anon220806
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    My daughter inherited pale skin, fair hair but not the blue eyes.
  7. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Yeah, there are different models, John.
    The one that I bought twice and can recommend is the "Wahl Hair Clippers 100 Series Groom Ease" but it is more expensive on Amazon.
    It is not a battery powered model - I believe corded ones are superior:

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  8. bigmac
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  9. oss
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    (Paywall)

    It was developed to treat Ebola, there have been some reports of its use in China in the early days of their epidemic, there are limited supplies and it is still in clinical trial.

    If it turns out to genuinely be effective then that would be extremely good news, but it won't be a magic bullet as it is very hard to manufacture https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/03/26/problem-remdesivir-making-it-14665
  10. Druk1
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    When do people realistically think they will be able to travel anywhere,i cant see things getting back to normal till the end of the year,if then,air-fares might go up,travel insurance probably will.
  11. Anon220806
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    I was reading that EasyJet (I think it was) are selling seats but omitting the middle seat in a row of 3 - leaving it empty. Not sure if that is a solution?

    They are talking about a vaccine in September but then there will be a long queue for it.
  12. aposhark
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    It all looks very bad to me, and I am usually optimistic.
    Perhaps some people will travel in Summer 2021, but what happens if there are more waves of the virus?

    Let's hope the vaccine research scientists of the world find a vaccine that works or there could be many years of trouble and travel could be a thing of the past for the majority of people..
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  13. Anon220806
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    Either that or a valid and reliable antibody test as in you can’t board the plane without a negative result. Either way it is likely to be a while yet.
  14. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Also, the UK will pass 20,000 deaths in a week's time and these increasing horrific figures will erode confidence even further.
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  15. oss
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    More to the point will anyone provide travel insurance which covers hospitalisation for this disease.

    Travel insurance provides you with assurance that if something unexpected happens you can afford the hospital treatment and maybe the repatriation costs to get you home, but for the insurance companies they are essentially betting that you are either going to fairly quickly die accidently while abroad, in which case the pay-out is usually not so large, or that it's an injury that you can recover from and get out of hospital quickly or an illness that is recoverable that hopefully won't need massive time in hospital, edit: chronic pre existing conditions were expensive to insure even before this, anyone knowing they had heart disease or cancer or something else nasty would be hard pressed to get cover at a reasonable price.

    The problem with this illness is that it is easy to catch and large numbers go on to need very prolonged care under a foreign hospital system with little to no prospect of you getting out of hospital inside a space of 6 weeks and being fit enough to travel back to your home country's medical system.

    The numbers involved mean that it is no longer a viable business providing travel insurance because you can't price it in a way that most people could afford, so I think the current exclusion on Covid-19 will remain and that exclusion of any pandemic at your chosen destination will be introduced, also local endemic disease for which vaccination is not available will likely be excluded too.

    So will you take the risk of travelling when treatment could bankrupt you and the alternative is death in the event you get unlucky.

    Plenty of Brits have regularly travelled without any insurance but will they continue to want to do so?
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  16. oss
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    I think maybe middle of next year if I am still alive travel might resume with risks obviously.

    The good news is that annual leave carryover has been extended by the government until 2022 which means that unused leave this year and next will be available to carry through to April 2023.

    However the risk to companies is that they will be short staffed as a result in late 2021 to 2022.

    My senior management (senior senior management really as I am part of the 'senior' management :)) have already placed restrictions on use of holidays as a result, a three week break or more will not be accepted now, that upsets me as there is no point in me going away for much less than that and that three weeks should not count the public holiday season like Christmas where we have enforced shutdown and have to use 3 or 4 days annual leave whether we like it or not.

    By 2023 I would have been in the zone where I was thinking about retiring and spending more time in the Philippines annually anyway, and while it is painful not spending time with the kids now there was at least the chance with the leave rollover that I could have had some good quality time with the kids in 2021 and 2022.

    So I will be arguing about this one, particularly as I have always provided ongoing support when I am abroad whether as an employee or in the old days as an independent business, for example I worked hard in the Philippines last December prior to the kids being off school, that work was only relevant to the UK but it was still work and I got a lot done in that time the second and third weeks of December.
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  17. uklove
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    Not being able to travel is absolutely killing the company I work for, Zoom etc is OK but it doesn't generate the same atmosphere that you get in a hands-on training session.
    I had a customer in Dublin ask for a visit but there would be two weeks quarantine, no way would that be financially viable.
    The government's are going to have to tread a very fine line and balance the risks to health vs the damage to the economy.
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    We have a multi city visit to the west coast of the USA booked for mid August so are watching the situation carefully before we cancel.
    All our hotels we booked through booking.com on a free cancellation policy if cancelled prior to a date in July
    Fortunately had not booked the flights as we had not sorted out our first day!
    Our car hire as with booking.com is cancellation FOC if done before end of June.
    Nationwide Building Society say this

    For trips booked before 18 March


    If you booked a trip before the 18 March, cover is available for coronavirus related claims for trips in the UK or abroad. This is because you could not have known of the risks when you booked

    So although we booked hotels prior to March but not flights I would guess we are not covered

    We will hang on till the last minute for government advice and also travel insurance updates before we action
  19. Anon220806
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    “Scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine in Britain hope to start clinical trials towards the end of next week, the leader of the team has told the BBC.”

    From the beeb, they say they hope to supply it across the globe. They sound optimistic. It will be great if they succeed. I saw them being interviewed on a Horizon programme last week.
  20. Anon220806
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    It has a similar effect with my employer. They have had to resort to Zoom as this time around the clients are in Germany and the instructor in Aberdeenshire. It was Zoom or not at all.

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