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Clegg v Farage : April 2nd

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Anon220806, Mar 5, 2014.

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  1. Anon220806
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    DAVID CAMERON has taken a swipe at Nigel Farage, accusing him of "failing to stand up for Britain".

    "The Prime Minister ridiculed the Ukip leader saying he could never change the way the EU works.

    Mr Cameron told fellow Tories at the party spring conference: "Ukip cannot change a thing in Brussels. Not my words, the words of their leader. Nigel Farage has admitted that, I quote, 'Ukip cannot change a thing'.

    "And frankly they barely even try. Even when they do bother to turn up to vote, they don't stand up for Britain."

    Mr Cameron told delegates in London that only the Conservatives had any real clout to change the European Union.

    The Conservative message was that "Labour and the Lib Dems won't give you a say in Europe, Ukip can't change anything in Europe, it's only the Conservatives who can deliver real change in Europe and, yes, it is only us that will give the people of Britain that in/out referendum", he said."

    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-04-05/pm-ukip-failing-to-stand-up-for-britain-during-voting/

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/46...-in-spat-with-Ukip-s-Nigel-Farage-over-the-EU

  2. Dave_E
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    Good post John.

    I think the article sums up the reason why so many people have had enough of the main UK political parties.

    A prime minister pontificating about how UKIP "cannot change anything" and "do not stand up for Britain", how only the Conservatives can deliver change and a referendum.

    But it is obvious that Cameron is impotent when it comes to defending the UK against the ever encroaching EU. What has he achieved since promising to bring about changes in the UK relationship with the EU ?

    As Farage states:
    Obviously people are happy to have a democratic relationship with Europe, as long as the elected politicians are defending the rights and livelihood of the British people. Instead the people feel that they are being sold down the river.

    And they are.
  3. Anon220806
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    I suppose it depends how you read it. I think we have 4 sets of viewpoints in British Politics just now. I would go for any bar the UKIP approach. They have a point but their solutions are not the right ones and their other policies are just plain daft. Hence the fruitcake label. The more I think about it, the more I realise UKIP could never hold the balance of power with either of the two major parties to the extent of forcing an outright withdrawal. As soon as that point sinks home then the UKIP bubble will have burst. :D

    UKIP if you want to but they aren't for me or the majority of the voting public.
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  4. Dave_E
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    So do you favour the end of British democracy.
    - The federalisation of the UK under EU control.
    - The end of GBP and its replacement by EUR.
    - Fiscal services being transferred from London to Frankfurt.

    Or do you just have a personal dislike for poor Mr Farage?
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    :D

    None of those are my words. Dave.

    Farage is okay, he likes a fag and a pint after all. But him and his fruitcakes aren't fit to be in government. Fullstop.
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    I would love to give Nigel one pint a 12 month trial in government and then be able to fire him if he didn't live up to expectations :), he certainly makes a lot of sense in what he says and he now has the ear of many voters as his popularity soars due to all the recent publicity surrounding the live debates.
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  8. Anon220806
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    Will UKIP get your nod at the next general election, Timmers? :D

    Perhaps we should have a poll?
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    I'm not sure if I would vote UKIP or not, but they are the only party who will do anything positive about immigration, the other parties are too frightened. If Nigel Farage is the only one to do it then yes maybe I will vote for him.
    I personally believe it will not affect anyone bringing wives and fiancées into the country.

    Yes we should have a vote here, although from the posts here I think we already know who is for and against Mr Nigel :D
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