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Coronavirus (Covid-19) in Other Countries (not Philippines or UK)

Discussion in 'News from the UK, Europe and the rest of the World' started by aposhark, Oct 19, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Comparing one country to another is complex. But a quick check on what goes in supermarket trolleys tells the story. We are what we eat.
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    I read that as 'Covid Free: Vitamin D pills' for a moment and thought yeah I should hope so :lol: need to get my eyes checked my checkup was due last April :D

    More seriously it's December already and it's getting dark at 4pm so where is this support and how are they going to get it to people, and they have to educate people about why they need it first.

    Also I hope that is a misquote of a government or scientific source, 'Vitamin D CAN be absorbed', it's manufactured in the skin and processed by the liver into calcifediol which is the resulting active chemical they inject into newly sick COVID patients as a therapeutic so as to cut out the middle man (the liver).

    I still haven't used the Vitamin D test I bought, I really need to do that soon.
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    Dr Simon Tobin Tweeted today:


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    They are talking about calcifediol.

    The dose I take is Vitamin D3 4000IU per day but that takes about a week to get processed to calcifediol, when they inject calcifediol it has instant effect.

    I agree that 400IU is tiny and probably pointless at that level even 1000 IU (25 micrograms) is not that useful .

    That graph is one that you posted separately months ago interesting to see it posted on Twitter.
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    This written in the Guardian a few months ago.

    Joanna Blythman: How to boost your vitamin D levels to ward off coronavirus
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    “But considering that we have been stuck indoors for so long this year, we Scots should now be actively encouraged to get outside as much as possible.

    Why? Our country’s northerly exposure and heavy cloud cover means that even under normal circumstances, we’re likely to have sub-optimal levels of vitamin D.

    Last year Manchester University scientists calculated that Stirling, for instance, gets just 38% of the vitamin D-effective UVB rays enjoyed in the Spanish resort of Marbella.

    People living in the south of England, they found, got around 28 more days each year when UV rays were high enough for our bodies to make a useful amount of this vitamin.

    Why does that matter? Vitamin D helps us absorb calcium and phosphorus from food to keep bones, teeth and muscles strong and helps keep the immune system and heart healthy.”

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    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...-boost-vitamin-d-levels-ward-off-coronavirus/
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  7. bigmac
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    We arent seriously expected to eat that..are we ?
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    It is physically very hard to get enough vitamin D from food, whereas 30 minutes sitting in the noonday sun in shorts would generate vast amounts in that small amount of time.
  9. Anon220806
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    Well no. It’s up to each of us, what we choose to eat.
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    Japan has done extremely well to contain and manage the SARS-CoV -2 virus.

    It is very sad that they lost their Olympic year and had it delayed.

    Looking at the graph, I don't want to minimise it, they have had an increase of something like 800 suicides this year and that in an environment that has not suffered particularly badly from Covid-19.

    I do understand the point about women in the service and hospitality industries as they will have been disproportionately affected by all this even in Japan because they will have taken precautions outside of lockdowns to minimise risk to the general population.
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    It's also that horrendous Asian "loss of face" problem and it's terrible consequences :eek::(:(
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    Yeah that is part of it.

    One should not underestimate the extent of that problem elsewhere in the world, plenty of Brits suffer from it too as do a very large number of Americans.

    The ability to admit failure or to admit that you are wrong is to me the basic signature of an adult human being and a person who is more likely to be at peace with themselves.
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    Unfortunately there are millions of narcissists out there intent on blaming others for their problems.
    It takes strong shoulders and sturdy legs to take the strain at times :D
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    I think that instilling honesty and personal self honesty in our children is one of our most important tasks in our lives, it is not up to us to tell them how to think but it is up to us to teach them how to think for themselves.
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    Yes Jim, I apologize to my kids when I have made a mistake telling them that we should all that and not just children to their parents.
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    Just an interesting observation this graph compared to the one you clipped above about two weeks back shows some of the late reporting I was on about, the 11th Nov in this graph continues its upward trend to more than 50 deaths per day compared to flattening and a drop off on the earlier graph for that period, they report late and I think we could see the sharp drop in this one I have posted vanish in a week or two, although as they are taking some action now it should start to level off in the next few weeks.

    This is much more like the graph I was predicting 4 or 5 weeks ago when I was saying let's wait and see and although maybe their results are tailing off rapidly let's wait and see a bit longer as I think they are running a few weeks behind us in overall spread of the infection.

    Also Sweden's deaths/million ratio is now running at 692 vs the UK at 877.

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    Where's Sweden on this list? It’s down at the very bottom at -3.4%.
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