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Diploma Question

Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by tipipay, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. tipipay
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    Is it useful to bring my Philippine diploma to the UK?
    Is it necessary to have it authenticated (red ribbon,CAV) before going to the UK?
    Or it's not credited at all when looking for a job?
  2. Timmers
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    You need to get your qualification compared by UK NARIC, that is the only UK body that compares overseas qualifications and is recognised in the UK.

    You can have your degree compared and you can also submit paperwork to NARIC to show your degree was taught in English which will give you an exemption from sitting any further English Tests for future FLR(M) ILR applications. It will be very beneficial to get your degree compared as most UK employers will think your qualification is not worth the paper it is written on otherwise. UK NARIC is recognised by UK employers and having their reference on your CV can only help (they give you a reference number as proof).

    https://www.naric.org.uk/naric/
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  3. joi1991
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    Does that mean if I apply for a job and mentions that I finish this course, I will be asked of a naric assessment? :(
    My fiance said they wouldn't look into that but my job experience rather.
  4. joi1991
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    I finished a certain Bachelor course, and he suggested I look for an employer that will accept interns and will allow me to study so I can get a qualification after, I think that's what his explanation was. Lol

    But I don't want to study anymore. I'd rather showcase my job experience than what I learned from textbooks :(
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  5. tipipay
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    I feel you! Starting from scratch seems daunting. But no beginning is easy. But I think they will consider more on experience rather than your degree. It's the basis here in the Philippines, I don't know in the UK.
  6. tipipay
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    Thanks for this info @Timmers !
  7. joi1991
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    Well I mentioned it to my Fiance and he thinks the same things Timmers said. Oh boy.... When do the hardships end? Lol
  8. tipipay
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    The hardships will end when we give up. But that also means we won't be able to accomplish anything. Where's the fun in that? Keep going Joi! I think you're a smart and determined woman, I'm sure you can do it.;)
  9. firew0myn
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    Hi @tipipay! Have it assessed by NARIC first. You only need to submit soft copies to them online. I brought all of my uni credentials. It might be helpful to have it with you in case you also want to pursue studies over here. I initially wanted to enrol with the Open Uni here and if you want your subjects credited, they can but will ask you for your uni credentials. As for jobs, my current employer didn't ask me for my diploma or TOR. They are more interested in finding out credit history as they are a financial institution and of course will do a background check on you.
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  10. tipipay
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    Thanks for this info @firew0myn ! :) I will surely bring my credentials. Now I know I don't have to authenticate it here (that's another fee and isn't cheap).
  11. firew0myn
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    Definitely saves you a lot of unnecessary paper work ;) I think the red ribbon thing is mostly required in middle eastern countries especially for nurses, I may be wrong :)
  12. knightstrike
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    My suggestion to you is to look for part-time jobs first.

    Get some UK experience.

    After a year or so, then start applying for those entry-level full-time jobs.
    That's the only way to off-set your PH experiences.
    Employers here in the UK kind of looks down on PH and other countries in Asia.
    You really have to work your way from the bottom.
    I did.

    Another way is, not to put the name of the country in your CV.
    Attend the interview and just emphasise to your recruiter, your skills and experiences.
    Only answer the relevant questions. Don't reveal from the start where you have worked.
    If you already have an British accent, then much better.
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  13. Timmers
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    That's okay but the CV you submit obviously gives the prospective employer all your work history so there is no getting away from where you have worked/lived in the past, best to try and get over to the employer how you can transfer the skills learned previously over to the new role, you must make your experience count.

    Its all about getting your backside in front of that person who can give you that start that in itself is difficult enough for Filipinos, especially those going for the better paid positions. I must admit, if I was looking at two CVs, one with British qualifications and one with qualifications from the Philippines then the CV from the Philippines would be flying into the waste bin unless something caught my eye, and that my friend is what you're up against. I think Filipinos have a better chance of getting through to the interview stage if they are applying to a company that has their own HR department as they tend to follow procedure/protocol and are not allowed to discriminate in any way.
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  14. knightstrike
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    Most of my experiences are from the Philippines. The reason I got by was my name and where I studied. I was lucky to have studied in Australia and most recruiters think I'm just some chap who is very much into traveling. And then I used my gift of the gab to just tell them about my skills.

    But for someone whose experience and education all came from the Philippines, you really have to not outright reveal to the recruiter where you have worked until the last minute he/she actually asks.

    Some recruiters don't really look at the CV much. They focus more on the cover letter or just browses through the CV.

    It's a combination of luck and how you explain to them.

    But yes, definitely. Applying to the actual company gives you a better chance.

    Hope this helps kababayan @joi1991 !
  15. Timmers
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    Gift of the gab is always good hence the saying "bull**** baffles brains" :)
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  16. joi1991
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    Even before, I've been looking for prospect employers in UK And I narrow my search down to those who are looking for applicants with knowledge in SAP accounting because I think that's my edge. There are plenty of job openings but I might be the least likely to be accepted and I have acdepted that.
    But @knightstrike is right, I should start from the beginning which I don't mind because surely what I earned I'm Manila is less than what I'd get in entry level jobs. Most jobs are in London so hopefully I'd find one near my Hubby's city.
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  17. knightstrike
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    SAP. Nice. I know a recruitment company whose niche is ERPs/Business software specialists. I don't know though if they're hiring for companies outside London. But I do know they also have international offices and also do international hiring.

    You have a permanent visa? What's your status?

    Let me see.

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    But definitely, here in this country I found out its much better to be over-qualified than under-qualified. If you can't make up for the degrees, marks, etc. you can make it up with experiences or skills.

    I think that's great!

    And it's good you have support and time to look for jobs, whereas I had to do everything on my own. Anyway funny in the Phils, they don't like both under and over qualified. Hahahaha...

    And they mostly only want the Ateneo/La Salle/ UP grads.

    Oh and the average starting wage (basic) for entry-level white collar at least here in London is 20K GBP per annum and up. Keep that in mind if you don't already know yet.

    That's what I was earning in the Phils back when I was already a manager. Hahahah..

    Well, I'm in sales. I need it. Hahahaa.
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  18. joi1991
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    Well, I am not in a hurry to get myself a job yet. BTW I'm in Manila still, will be flying to UK in Dec. Right now, I am depressed over waiting for my Japan visit visa which I might not enjoy because I'd only have limited time to stay. :(
    Thanks for the advice, for my first job I won't look into salary but experience (like what happened after grad). We will live in Birmingham I think there are opportunities there, Indeed and LinkedIn keeps me posted.
  19. firew0myn
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    I don't think there is anything wrong with an entry level post but just make sure you are not short changing yourself. I am saying this out experience. I applied as a QA officer but was rejected because my qualifications are way higher than an officer role. They did offer me after a managerial role.

    Recruiters and hiring managers are more interested in your experience and when applicable, your certification. I was hired by a financial company eventhough I don't have any financial background. They are more interested in my QA experience which is exactly what they need. Do not be afraid to apply for jobs that fit your experience and skills.
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  20. Timmers
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    Always good to have a LinkedIn profile, my last two jobs originated from there, and Indeed is probably the best UK jobs search engine.

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