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Foreigners murdered in the Philippines

Discussion in 'Rant and Rave' started by CatchFriday, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. CatchFriday
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    Occasionally foreigners are murdered in the Philippines, and fortunately it doesn't happen very often, but it can happen and I read this article about the incidents that affect some people. The writer makes the following points, I quote:

    • By far, the most common perpetrators are:
    1. the boyfriend of the foreigner’s wife or young girlfriend,
    2. the maid’s boyfriend,
    3. some relative of the girlfriend, wife or the maid.
    4. Ex-employees are another possibility.

    There are may more mentioned in the article, so I believe it's a subject that is interesting to talk about here.
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  2. Alexnew
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    I didn't read the full article, but have to say that, you'd be a fool to assume the Philippines is entirely safe. It's a third world country (developing country, as is stated by governments). There's very rich and very poor, anyone who's visited will know this.

    I generally take off my watch and leave other valuable items out of site when here. There's no need to provoke a problem!

    The stated murders you mention, all i can say is don't be an idiot in a country that doesn't uphold its traffic laws, where bribes are often made with authority.

    However, if you do things correctly, you'll minimise the risk.

    I appreciate that people here have wife's much their junior, for that i wish them good luck and all the happiness, if done right, both people benefit and can live happily ever after.

    I guess my point is, don't be a dick, treat your lady with the respect she deserves. I'm sure most western women won't take care of you the way a Filipina does!

    And more importantly, don't assume the girl you've met is genuine from day 1. Analyse the relationship, is she after money, better life? Could she have a boyfriend?

    Keep safe guys and i hope you all have happy relationships with your better halves
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  3. Timmers
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    I agree, common sense is really the order of play for a foreigner in the Philippines and any other developing country for that matter.

    You're a long time dead.
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  4. Mattecube
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    Common sense and respect simples!
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    It is wise to make it very clear indeed that nobody will benefit from your demise and that you have no valuables.
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  6. Jim
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    Jim Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Get nowt from me, don't even have a shirt on my back.
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    I don't want to sound disrespectful but it sometimes felt that because I am white I was fair game to be ripped off...
    A nought was often added to the end of the price of something I was buying.
    Imaginary charges would be asked for.
    It was assumed that I could buy anything I wanted.
    And...last but not the least...Hurdles were often put in our way when arranging our marriage only to be told that a 'special' solution was available...at a cost of course. I am talking about senior people here who should have been setting the standard...One from a court and another from the church.

    I only felt threatened once but I guess being a big guy helps.
    My best advice would be to trust no-one. Even someone you know may surprise you.
    Travelling taught me to be aware of the ingenuity of others m and that we don't all think alike.
    I heard that someone could be 'permanently dealt with' for 1,000 pesos..
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  8. Timmers
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    Its called the "long nose tax," the same thing happens in many countries I have been to, its not right but that's the way it is :)
  9. Methersgate
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    I think 1,000 pesos is too cheap. The Government pays the cops more for murdering drug users, etc. I was asked if i wanted someone removed permanently for 100K but I suspect there was some long nose tax there.
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    Anecdotally I understood the going rate to be 15k but I've since been told by @graham59 (I think!) that the rate is now 5k (buy one, take two!).
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  11. Stellar
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    here is a brief summary of the 2017 murder season that has recently ended : http://philippineslifestyle.com/foreigners-murdered-philippines-2017/

    this season, actually, not so very many of the murders at all seem to be ones where the finger of suspicion points so very quickly at the wife, or girlfriend. The two Biliran murders I know something about, and it really does seem that with those two, it's foreigners getting in over their heads in local land/property deals and alienating local bigwigs rather than the straight up usual suspect spouse-getting-rid-of-the-old-and-awkward husband angle.

    the Canadian who got shot dead in the car with his thirty-years-younger-than-him wife sitting alongside him, well that one, might have been her. Often they do it so the wife is a witness to and therefore 'traumatised' by the murder, or even slightly injured herself in the attack, so people won't think that it's her. The Canadian had considerable assets invested and had built up a successful phone shop all of which of course, automatically goes to her to sell after a short period of mourning, to possibly share with the masked gunman boyfriend that pulled the trigger.

    The 2017 season was quite uneventful really. 9 shootings, 1 stabbing, and 1 beheading, quite routine really. 2018's Philippines foreigner murder season kicked off with quite a dramatic one here, in Baclayon, Bohol that looked like a bit of a mafia hit :

    http://www.boholchronicle.com.ph/2018/01/21/retired-us-soldier-shot-dead-in-baclayon/

    he was shot dead at 5am while out jogging with no money on him so robbery was not a motive. As usual with these kinds of murders, as soon as they are dead, all these rumours start circulating by the locals about what a dodgy businessman the guy was supposed to be, he was a drug dealer/money lender and so on and that was why he was killed. Exactly like what happened with Harry Doyle's murder, the rumours were spread that time by relatives and friends of Doyle's killers, Doyle's wife and her boyfriend, to try to make a false motive and throw the cops off the scent.

    the only reason why foreigner murders are ever solved is when relatives of the victims come out to the Philippines to make a noise and pay the cops to get on the case. Without an inducement, the police won't do anything, to solve these crimes. That is the only reason why the murderers of Stephen Davis in Angeles, Harry Doyle in Surigao, Tony Mcdonald in Manila, and even Tony Gilchrist in Malapascua - even though Tony was shot dead in front of about 6 witnesses who all knew the shooter - are behind bars. Each of them had relatives ready to come out to the Philippines and make inducements to the police,
    to expedite the prosecution of the case.

    the murderers know this. When the guy is old, and they think he may not have too many relatives back home ready to come out to the Philippines,bust a gut and pay to get justice, that emboldens them to carry out the crime.
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  12. Bootsonground
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    The professional killers don`t really give a damn about consequences here as they know the odds of being caught are slim to none..
    Only thing paid killers want is half the 5/10k upfront and the other half after the job!
    Nothing "emboldens" them more than quick cash.
  13. graham59
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    Just too easy these days... :eek:

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  14. Stellar
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    give them 5,000 to do the killing but don't forget to give them another 150 plus another 100 to get on a bus and buy a mask from a store in a different town. Sometimes, they forget.
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