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Getting married in the uk to a Filipino

Discussion in 'Relationship Advice' started by Christopher Thorne, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Christopher Thorne
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    Christopher Thorne Member

    hi all my fiance and i was getting married in the philippines but now we wish to live in the uk and marry my question is what documents will she need to marry in the uk and how hard is it to get a spouse visa
  2. Christopher Thorne
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    Christopher Thorne Member

    any advice would help a great deal thanks :)
  3. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    The fiance(e) visa, which goes by the same rules as the spouse visa (in effect they are almost the same) except you need to show a lot of information with respect to proving your relationship is genuine, and the financial rules also apply as they do with a spouse visa. The ECO have to be satisfied that the relationship is genuine more than anything, mainly due to recent scams that have hit the headlines over the last few years.

    The requirements are:

    • you and your partner must be aged 18 or over at the date of application;
    • your partner must not be related to you in a way that means you could not marry in UK law;
    • you and your partner must have met in person;
    • your relationship must be genuine and subsisting;
    • you must be seeking entry to the UK to allow your marriage or civil partnership to take place;
    • any previous relationship must have permanently broken down (this does not apply to certain polygamous relationships);
    • you and your partner must intend to live together permanently in the UK;
    • you must meet the financial requirements; and
    • you must meet the English language requirement.

    Your partner would then need to arrive in the UK with her birth certificate, CENOMAR and of course her passport (stamped with the visa). I am not sure if the CENOMAR would be sufficient (others on here who married in the UK can answer that one) but after the wedding you would need to register it with the Philippine Embassy in London.
  4. SINGERS
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    The process is long-winded but fair. I found the Homo Office staff I dealth with very helpful.

    Getting married in UK is sooo much simpler than in PI.

    The rulezzz have changed too much for my experience to be relevent to an application to-day though. Sorry.:(

    Honesty is the best policy was the advice I got from the first Homo Office (Border Agency) interviewer.:rolleyes:

    Very best of luck.

    Tom
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2012
  5. Christopher Thorne
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    i read that if you receive dla (disability living allowance) the fee could be avoided am i reading this right as follows - Exemptions
    You will be exempt from the new financial requirement if your sponsor receives a specified disability-related benefit or carer's allowance in the UK. You will need to show that your sponsor can maintain and accommodate you without access to public funds.
  6. Christopher Thorne
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    Christopher Thorne Member

    thx for the advice kuya and singers
  7. Christopher Thorne
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    Christopher Thorne Member

    and one more question do her documents need to be notarised ?
  8. SINGERS
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    SINGERS Member

    Yes.!
    I read that (On the Border Agency website) as meaning one in receipt of DLA or others are exempt.

    Tom
  9. Christopher Thorne
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    ok so my main issue will be the english entrance exam and how long is the CENOMAR valid for in the uk and would it have to be exchanged for an english version (cni) and would they both have to be notarised ?
  10. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Yes, but the exemption may end April 2013.
  11. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    The application form comes in 2 parts. The first part is available here and it gets into a lot of stuff, but then you have to choose an Appendix to cover your reason for applying. Now for spouses and fiance(e)s you need Appendix 2 - which is this one.

    Scroll down on that second form to and it asks the visa applicant "Is your sponsor in receipt of a disability related or carers benefit listed within the guidance notes?" And if the answer is yes then it advises the applicant to skip over section 3 (which covers all the main money side of things) to section 4..
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    Here is some more information on the possible end to the income exemptions for thos on disability benefits...

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/soi-fam-mig.pdf

    Ther relevant paragraph is...

    "93.The basis for and operation of the new financial requirement will be reviewed in line
    with the implementation of the Government’s welfare reforms. These include the introduction of Personal Independence Payment from April 2013 and the roll-out of
    Universal Credit from October 2013. In particular, before April 2013 we will review the
    treatment under the financial requirement of disabled people and carers, with a view to
    ensuring that the operation of the financial requirement properly reflects the
    Government’s welfare reforms. We will announce any changes in due course, but an
    applicant – sponsored by a person in receipt of a disability-related benefit specified
    above or Carer’s Allowance – who will be exempt from the new financial requirement
    from 9 July 2012 cannot expect that they will necessarily remain exempt from April
    2013."
  13. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    The CENOMAR is NOT required by the register office and I don't think you need to convert the CENOMAR to a CNI in the UK either, as the Register Office do not require any CNI either.

    The CENOMAR appears only to be necessary in order to apply for the Fiance Visa. You will need the Fiance Visa as supporting documentation for the Register Office notification of intention to marry. The Fiance Visa lasts six months but you need to get married within that six months and apply and obtain further leave to remain within that six month period.

    That is my understanding but I have no personal experience yet.
  14. florgeW
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    florgeW Lady Mod Senior Member

    i agree with Howerd. I simply cannot add anything more.

    I came to the UK with a fiancee visa but i'm not sure if there were changes in the rules.. I gave the CENOMAR as part of the requirements to obtain a fiancee visa and showed the same to the registrar's office here but she just looked at it. i guess it's because i am already a fiancee visa holder so it is understood to mean that i can legally marry and that i am not currently married.

    when i applied for the visa, i just followed and submitted the requirements. i'm not familiar with DLA as hubby is not receiving any benefits. i guess it all boils down to you being able to support your wife while in the UK regardless if your receiving benefits or not since she (your future wife) cannot claim any benefits while under fiancee and FLR visas (except for maternity benefits)... hope that helps
  15. Christopher Thorne
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    thx for letting me know howerd
  16. Christopher Thorne
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    thx for the advice florge
  17. Christopher Thorne
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    Christopher Thorne Member

    thx a lot kuya that really helps couldn't find the forms :)
  18. Kuya
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    Kuya The Geeky One Staff Member

    No problem. It is likely your mahal will apply online and use online versions of those forms, but it is a good idea to print them out and get to know the questions and get your answers ready.
  19. Christopher Thorne
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    what is the difference unmarried partner and civil partner / Proposed Civil Partner or Fiancé(e) hmm i thought florizel would class as my civil partner or Fiancé(e)
  20. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I was always confused about that in the early days :D but civil partner law and terminology refers to same sex couples http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/33/section/1

    Unmarried partner is clarified here :- http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/v...families/citizens-settled/unmarried-same-sex/

    I believe that few have ever succeeded in the unmarried partner route with a girlfriend from the Phils.
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2012

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