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Discussion in 'Life in the UK' started by knightstrike, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    You've just about wrapped it up :)
  2. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    And not forgetting authentic British fish and chips...
  3. knightstrike
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    And go work as what? Waiter, Housekeeper, Kitchen-help, Front-desk, etc? I'm not belittling those work, don't get me wrong. They're all respectable jobs.

    But what a waste of my university degree. What I have I toiled all these years for? Why did I work for KFC whilst in university to buy all those books?

    Plus, I'm still a Filipino. Having a university degree would just lead to racial abuse by Middle Eastern employers.

    If I work on those roles/jobs, I'll earn on average say 50,ooo PHP a month? Why do that when I can earn 175000 PHP or more in the UK and use what I gained from my university studies?

    A lot of my relatives from my mother side are working in the Middle East: Dubai, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc.
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  4. Timmers
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    Lots of money to be had in the Middle East, the other boys will tell you. You can use your education, the wife has two degrees, her two sisters are the same, they have been in Dubai for years and earn lots of money, its a win win situation.

    And, you may even be lucky enough to meet Miss Gingernut from the UK as there are many British people working there.
  5. knightstrike
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    From what I said in another thread, I actually tried to find employment in Bahrain. The only good offer I got was to work for a front-desk job in a hotel. It was through email. And I already had various job experiences when I tried.

    And the new rulings with OFWs are quite tedious. You register in POEA, you attend seminars, medical insurance, OWWA/Pag-ibig membership, etc.

    http://careers.jobstreet.com.ph/poea-articles/355-what-you-need-to-work-overseas

    Why go through all that, when all you need is to look for jobs online in the UK , find a place to live, buy a ticket then go to the UK? No seminars, OWWA/Pag-ibig BS.

    I still dream of going to Bahrain and Canada. Possibly in the future, when I have gained UK working experience. I'll have a higher chance of finding employment in my preferred jobs on those countries that are actually in line with my degree by then.
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  6. Timmers
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    She was there on a Philippine passport sponsored by Citibank Dubai.

    I suppose there are lots of people with degrees working behind a hotel desk, most Filipinos I know enter the UAE on a visit visa and stop with friends while looking for work there, my wife went over years back and found a job, then her sisters followed her. I think if you just apply for jobs online from overseas then you are up against it, the agencies there are swamped by applicants from all over the world for obvious reasons.

    When my wife moved back to the Philippines before securing the visa to enter the UK she struggled like hell to get a good job back there

    I moved this conversation from the other thread by the way, we had gone off topic, something you have already noticed that we do quite well here :)
  7. Timmers
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    Bahrain is one of my favourite countries in that neck of the woods, you still have a bit of action and nightlife which is important for us Brits. As you say, you will have a better chance of seeking employment in the Middle East once you have gained a little experience in the UK, a lot of people in the UK move to the Middle East with companies they are already working for in the UK, a much easier route.

    One thing that does stand out for me in the Middle East is that there are a lot of UK expats there that are punching above their weight that shouldn't be in the positions they are in, they got the job through their Nationality more than experience, that's where your downfall may be regardless of your UK passport if you eventually get one, you will still be seen as Filipino so making it less possible that you could demand a higher salary. You will have seen the job advertisements there, a lot ask specifically for British, Americans and Europeans. They cant do that by the way in the UK, there is very little race or age discrimination in the UK, we left that behind some years back.
  8. Timmers
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    Another thing to remember is that Degrees in the UK are two a penny so don't count on your education to take you far.

    Sorry to wee on your fireworks Knight :D
  9. knightstrike
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    I don't work for a bank. While I can do trial balance, income statements, etc. I'm not a certified accountant. I won't get a sponsorship from a bank like your wife.

    I work for a Chinese mining company. And I have no plan to work in China, considering the tension, news and all that.

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    And when was that, when did your wife moved to the UK to find employment?

    From what I've heard from people, UK is experiencing a recovery now from the previous recession and the unemployment rate is low. Time to make a killing I believe.
  10. knightstrike
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    No, I actually appreciate it. I want people to give their UNBIASED opinions. But UNBIASED OPINIONS that will actually help. And not just criticise me for my beliefs.

    Criticise me about my credentials, experiences, or logic please.

    And I know my degree won't get me ahead in the UK just like what I did/been doing here in the Philippines. It's still just a piece of papers.

    Employers here in the Philippines are amazed by my diploma and transcript. Every time I show them, they're flabbergasted. It's something I take advantage of, because I can, and I'm stupid if I don't

    But I know it won't work in the UK, hence I why I would start from the bottom.

    What you said about Bahrain employers asking specifically for British, Americans, etc. is quite true! Same as what happened to me in Australia, in Barrows Island specifically.

    I had an offer from Chevron Australia, which was the main reason why I applied for a UK passport in the first place. I was newly-grad, excited and all that. But when I was about to proceed, I was informed at the last minute that I wouldn't be able to continue with the job offer because there is a ruling in Western Australia that says only Australian residents/citizens or passport holders from UK, US, EU, etc. can work there. Hence why I came back to the Philippines to apply for my UK passport.

    I already had an Australian graduate visa. And I admit, it was a stupid move to come back.

    That was one of my biggest heartbreaks. lol.
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  11. Timmers
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    The unemployment rate is low and falling by the month that's why we have so many Europeans from the EU coming here for work because the UK economy is out performing most.

    My wife found a job quickly in the UK working in HR for Network Rail a very large company that supply services for the rail industry, its a rolling six month contract but she is hoping for it to become permanent, the salary is good and she enjoys it. She is probably better educated than most people in her office but as most Filipinos are she is just happy to keep under the radar and do her work, she does not want the stress of a higher position which niggles me a little bit because I like people to work to their full potential.

    One thing to mention and my wife was only saying this the other day, any positions that are on offer paying a high salary always attract a lot of well qualified and well experienced applicants. One thing you should do also being a graduate is to have your Australian degree recognized by UK Naric, they verify that your degree is of a British standard, its good to have on your CV as there is no doubt then in the mind of a prospective employer when reading your CV.

    You will still be up against it I'm afraid to find a good paying job in the UK.
  12. Timmers
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    Having a degree gained in Australia will be better than a degree gained in the Philippines, only a few of the universities there have their degrees recognized by the UK.
  13. knightstrike
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    I'm not looking for a well-paying job STRAIGHT AWAY. That's absurd! Pure folly!
    I will have to go through the bottom first, get a feel of the UK. It's not just a must, I would be forced to.

    I plan to get rich. It's my life's ambition to be a self-made man. My personal hero is Richard Branson.

    It's like you don't even know how to drive manual yet, and you want a sports car already?

    I'm in for the grind and the long-haul.
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  14. Timmers
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    I see you fully understand the significance of a British/Western passport, my wife will probably clear off when she gets hers :lol:
  15. Timmers
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    Indeed, in it for the long haul, the right attitude, problems will occur along the way, looked what happened to Branson's spaceship :) but he will strive on until he reaches his goal.
  16. knightstrike
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    I'm not some naive Pinoy who thinks that just having a Western passport will magically make you a made-man. My mother and father are two good examples of that, and they even have titles and such.

    There's a lot of Westeners who have freedom to travel, but how come those who aspire to be rich, not all of them are millionaires or billionaires yet?

    You need other things as well. Skills and determination, and a little luck
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  17. Timmers
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    You do need a little luck that is so true.

    We have a saying in the UK which is also very true, "its not what you know its who you know."
  18. Anon220806
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    Yeah but they still open doors. My last employer specifically targeted graduates for the role that the department performed.
  19. knightstrike
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    Branson is the man! Hahahahaha...

    I actually wrote a term paper about him. I received HD, full marks! I'm a geek when it comes to his life story.

    The same words of my father. Which is also one of the reasons why I was able to leave the slums and earn an education in Australia.
  20. Timmers
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    Without question, that's a fact, but there are a lot of graduates kicking about.

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