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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by henry, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. Markham
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    But she does not have permanent resident status in Singapore - or does she?
  2. bigmac
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    surely IF singapore is party to the hague agreement--then the UK would have to recognise a divorce granted there ? i agree with your point about needing a cenomar IF she wants to apply from the philippines..or--more likely--to get through that CFO hurdle. ( which is why my -now-wife applied for annulment even though she got a UK divorce beforehand.) but if they chose to marry in singapore--and she applies for a spouse visa from there---whats the problem ?
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  3. henry
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    no she dont she never needed it because she had a work permit but i think it is to late for her to apply fow
  4. bigmac
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    my g/f was in the UK on a student visa when she filed for divorce from her filipino husband. so she wasnt a permanent resident here .

    i think it was an admin on here that suggested we got married in HK and then for her to apply for UK settlement from there. UKVI could hardly refuse to recognise a UK divorce !
  5. henry
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    if we both can live in singapore i would go there
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    why has filis have to be so akward country i been reading up about so many women there wants out of a bad marriage but can not because of this law what if my gf converts to C of E but not sure how here family will except it
  7. bigmac
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    we have had quite a few annulment threads on this forum. most filipinas could never possibly afford it on their own. the status quo in the philippines isnt likely to change ----its too big an earner for lawyers and all the others in the food chain.
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    so abit like the lawyers here in the uk when i was doing my devorce the first thing they said was it will cost this much so i let my ex wife do it all best move i have done
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    There has been a petition to relax the grounds for annulment particularly victims of abuse etc. the holds of the catholic church with lawmakers are quite strong.

    In the recent event when the country was trying to pass the reproductive health bill (give contraceptive freely to those who can't afford it etc), lawmakers who supported the bill were shamed during sunday mass. It eventually passed but not after a lot of circus.

    By the way, divorce is recognized by ph law if the marriage was conducted under the shariah law (or all muslim weddings in ph after 1986). So any muslim couple who wanted divorce can get one easily in a local shariah judge.
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    It becomes a matter of jurisdiction. A marriage is merely a legal process. In the situation that you describe, a Philippine court would rule she is still married. A Singaporean court would rule she is no longer married. If she is not a Singapore resident and does not intend to settle there then which position is the correct one? Does the Singaporean court have jurisdiction to dissolve the marriage? Will the UK authorities agree that they had jurisdiction? Usually in such cases the petitioner needs to have been resident in the court district for a certain amount of time. I would suggest that an anullment carries lesser risk and is the better option. It may not be the cheapest option. But it is the best one.
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  11. bigmac
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    probably best if they ask a singapore divorce lawyer for an opinion.
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    Ps. I just noticed that the original poster said that the Filipina has been resident in Singapore for eleven years. If that's the case and she is still there, then I don't think it will be a problem to obtain a Singapore divorce. The court there clearly has jurisdiction and such a divorce would be recognised by the UK. The visa application would have to take place in Singapore and not the Philippines. I would confirm that with a Singapore attorney but that's the route that I would consider in this situation.
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    thankyou for the good advvice I have been in contact with a lawyer and they have said that if she has been there for 3 years or more then they can help and the fees will be $2000 sgd which is really good so now I have been talking to gf and her employer will not let her have 5 minutes to ring them so we need to act fast to get the ball rolling in singapore or even try and find a cheap appartment there to get this devorce on the way
  14. Markham
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    Um, yes, that is true, but haven't you both forgotten two rather important people in all of this? I refer, of course, to her two children.
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    That's a very good point indeed. I didn't notice that she had children. If she had children and was married to the father at any time then under Philippine law sole custody does not vest with the mother and so it will be difficult for her to relocate them. It will be made even more difficult of the kids have regular contact with the father or live with him.
  16. henry
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    they have been living with the father for 11 yrs now and my gf is going to let them stay with the father so they do not get up lifted
  17. bigmac
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    one less problem for you .
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    that is true plus we have just be in contact with a lawyer in singapore who is hand my girlfriend a form for the ex to sign to not to contest and she can get a devorce based on been in singapore for 11 yrs and which will allow us to get married
  19. bigmac
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    and save you all that time..money and hassle of an annulment.

    did you mention before that you would consider living in singapore with her ?
  20. henry
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    yes we are thinking about singapore or malta

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