Regardless of whether Jennie would want to leave any of her children behind or not, I would not allow that. A Mother should not be separated from her children, Just a real pity that UKVI dont share the same attitude.
Good point that may not have been taken on board. Below 18 then it is a choice. Once child reaches 18 they have to qualify for a visa in their own right which means meeting skilled visa requirenents - cannot be dependent of mother. Another thing to bear in mind is cultural differences. I would agree with your view but not always seen that way by filipinos. Large number of children are left with relatives and mother or father work abroad. Remember also that adultery is a crime in the Philippines. Parties involved can be arrested and end up in prison. Also potential leverage if someone is looking to make money. Likewise having a baby gets very complicated and accidents do happen. If married then child's father is considered to be the husband. Getting recognised as father and getting British passport is lot more complicated. Baby is also evidence of adultery. Final point and think it has been made before. Getting spouse visa is relatively simple (meet requirements and fairly good odds). Child visas are more complicated and have higher evidence trail requirements as have the addition of having to meet the sole responsibility requirement. This should not be underestimated as quite possible to get spouse visa but not visa for one or both children. You have time to build that evidence trail so start Don't assume UKVI will apply common sense, understand something obvious to you or apply any sympathy. It is an organisation run by rules and applies them rigoursly regardless of impact on individuals. Welcome to the wonderful world of international relationships and the complications of visas. On the plus side you are unlikely to have a unique situation and most people have overcome the hurdles - just need to avoid the pit traps and learn from other peoples experience so don't make similar mistake.
. Child visas are more complicated and have higher evidence trail requirements as have the addition of having to meet the sole responsibility requirement. This should not be underestimated as quite possible to get spouse visa but not visa for one or both children. which is exactly whats happened in our case. UKVI werent satisfied my wife has sole responsibility for her son ( 14 now ) visa refused 2 years ago. this is in spite of the fact the father has no contact with his son--and doesnt maintain him. just the fact he is named on the boys birth certificate and is still alive is all it took. we are not the only ones on this forum this has happened to. man at ukvi says --no--then expects us to go to court to challenge the refusal..racking up another massive legal bill in the process. if i knew back at the beginning what i do now........ but you now DO!
Hi all Once again some very good advice! Interesting though about the Adultry being a crime in the Philippines, her Ex left her for another Woman and has had two children with the new "Girlfriend" therfore normally I would suspect that he has commited Adultry himself. Now my mind maybe works completely different than the actual legal system, but surely if he has commited adultry he cant then complain about Jennie, well he may be able to, but would that not incriminate himself. Now I do not claim to know much about the legal system yet, I learn a little more every day, but my thoughts are he will not complaign. Fair point you raise Bigmac, it may have to be the case that when the visas are applied for we hope that all the evidence we have is correct. If not it may mean Jennie comes over with one or none of her children until the problem is resolved. Some people reading this in the future may think, well would it not be easier to have chosen someone who was single with no kids? The answer is a resounding yes, it would, and trust me I had the chance. But true love finds you! you dont find it, and now that has happened, with caution always, I will move Heaven and Earth to make this happen.
Once again some very good advice! Interesting though about the Adultry being a crime in the Philippines, her Ex left her for another Woman and has had two children with the new "Girlfriend" therfore normally I would suspect that he has commited Adultry himself. Now my mind maybe works completely different than the actual legal system, but surely if he has commited adultry he cant then complain about Jennie, well he may be able to, but would that not incriminate himself. Now I do not claim to know much about the legal system yet, I learn a little more every day, but my thoughts are he will not complaign. wrong ! adultery only applies if a woman ( wife) does the deed. if the husband does it--its called something else. wracking my brain cell to think of it.--edit--concubinage check---https://www.google.com/search?q=adu...ome..69i57.16007j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
It's dreadful how men holds all the cards in Marriage law in PH. Serious amount of inequality. Unless the Woman has access to lots of money and good lawyer, they're essentially a prisoner to a unfaithful marriage
Which he never is as far as the courts are concerned. Many women seem conditioned to expect concubinage, and the legal system never does anything about it. And it annoys me that Filipino women often apply their view of local behaviour, the way native Filipino men behave, to foreigners who are often far more invested than the local guy would ever be. I mean how many men in the west can afford two or more full households and all related expenses in multiple countries. For rich Filipinos it is the norm and features all over all of the teledramas, the general population and the poor population thus get the impression that this is how you should behave, which is of course nonsense.
