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How to apply for a Partner/Spouse Visa Under New Rules

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by Micawber, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. Markham
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    There are two ways to get citizenship for a foreign-born child. The first is by registering the birth with the British Embassy and the second (and Foreign Office advised) is by applying for the child's British Passport. The documentary requirements are the same in both cases but a word of warning: you and your girlfriend are going to have to prove your relationship (in documentary form) since you are not married and you will need to prove that the child is yours.
  2. Ian martin
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    "prospects" haha. Of course any income /pension will just come straight off the Universal credit. In UK now, it's housing that is the killer. On minimum wage, you need to work 2 days just to pay your rent.

    I think Filipino passports are quite straightforward if you have the correct Filipino birth certificate (NSO).

    So if I can get British citizenship then Filipino passport, I think my son should get to uk
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  3. Ian martin
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    To get british citizenship is automatic, I thought, if one of the parents is a British citizen ( for 2 generations).
    I thought, it's just a matter of applying in Philippines and sending the right UK birth certificates and wedding certificates. It costs a lot of money. That's what I read last year.
  4. Markham
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    You - or rather your girlfriend - should apply for his Philippine Passport immediately after birth; it will be required as part of the British Passport application.
  5. Ian martin
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    Yes, thanks for the warning about proving relationship, yes we can do that, I think.

    But it seems to me that if baby has a Filipino passport to travel to UK AND he already has British citizenship, he should be able to travel to UK
  6. Markham
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    But you won't have a UK Birth Certificate - to get one of those, the child would have to be born in the UK - and you're not married.
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    A Philippine passport can be applied for by the mother it will take time but she can do it, the passport for the child will be in the mothers maiden name not your surname.

    A British passport and citizenship will take more proof in my case for my daughter 10 years ago I had to get a three way DNA test done in UP (university of the Philippines) Quezon city, the embassy (our embassy) basically left me no choice as it was the only proof possible at the time for an unmarried couple.

    The process has become simpler in more recent years but they (UK authorities) will still demand proof and if your partner has ever been married in the Philippines you will find it extremely difficult and you will require a DNA test to prove your son's UK citizenship.
  8. Ian martin
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    Yes. Thanks.
    And also to get british citizenship, I think he needs a photo certified by 2 Filipinos, 1 of which must be a person "of standing"
  9. oss
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    There is another UK document required I forget the name, but yes if the child has a Republic of the Philippines passport and the required British recognition then they can travel to the UK.

    The bigger question is how you wil get the child and mother out of the Philippines in the first place, a visit visa is very unlikely and you have almost no chance of getting a child under seven years of age out of the Philippines on your own.
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    I had to have certification from UK citizens who knew my daughter.
  11. Markham
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    Erm, whilst the child is a minor, his mother's written permission will be required and certain DSWD procedures followed.
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    Right of Abode? More expensive than a Passport ...

    Yes indeed but until the child turns 16 he will need DSWD clearance in order to travel out of the Philippines.
  13. Ian martin
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    ESA benefit is now included in Universal Credit, is all I know. That's a disability benefit, maybe there are others. But I don't get them anyway
  14. Ian martin
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    Yes, I knew about the DSWD clearance, I think that can be easily dealt with though. Yes, I would have to leave Philippines with the mother and baby
  15. oss
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    Thanks yes RoA and yes the clearance would be required anyway.
  16. Ian martin
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    I'm sure it can be Filipinos of equal standing. It doesn't have to be UK citizens. They aren't going to insist UK citizens can vouch for photo of a Filipino baby I think. But I am sure I've read that, Filipinos can sign the photo, 1 must be high standing. Or maybe it's not nessary for a baby
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  17. Ian martin
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    Yes, I've already thought about the DSWD clearance. Thanks
    The name of the father on the birth certificate can be a foreigner tourist, I'm sure.
  18. Markham
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    Maybe procedures have changed but when I applied for my two's Passports, I had to send their application packs which included a Declaration which had to be signed by a "professional" British Passport holder who had known me personally for at least 7 years. My solicitor fitted that bill perfectly and she simply needed to see the boys "live" on Skype.
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    Please read my reply to Oss, immediately above this post, on this very point.
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    Possibly but you still have to prove the child is British, if the authorities have any doubt they WILL demand a DNA test and it is not cheap, most cases are much simpler than yours but I wish you the best of luck.

    My daughter is ten years old and has never been to the UK yet, I would dearly like to be able to bring her here even for a holiday but it has never been possible and I am on a five figure salary where the first digit is somewhat more than six.

    I am the same age as you, my son was born before the rule change in 2006 so he is basically not British and it will never be easy to get him here. I have problems with my ex partner but that is not the main problem I have, other financial issues are paramount, I wish you all the best but it really will not be easy.

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