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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Anon04576, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. Anon04576
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    Anon04576 Well-Known Member

    So asawa went to the supermarket and bought valentines chocolates. She also wanted to buy champagne however at the till was asked for ID. She had left her purse in the glove compartment of the car so couldn't produce satisfactory ID. All this despite being 28 an accompanied with two kids. She yet has to be able to buy alcohol since her 4.5 years in the UK. It'll happen one day dear :D
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  2. Brom27
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    Brom27 Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Ironically @tipipay experienced the same yesterday. She was about to buy beer but the cashier asked for ID to confirm her age:lol:
  3. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    You cannot blame the staff for asking for ID in the shop/off licence as the shop assistant stands to lose their job if they sell to underage people, Its a pain in the backside I know but that's the way it is.

    I was into my early 30s before they stopped asking me for my ID for beer on trips to the US, its amusing and funny at first but then it wears a bit thin after a while.

    Always best to have your ID on you at all times especially when you are a foreigner.
  4. Maley
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    Maley Well-Known Member

    Happened to me as well. I purchased some baileys (drink of choice right now) and having worked in uae for a long time, i learned to bring an ID anywhere i go.

    So i have showed my ph driver's license but still pleased that i look younger than my 30+ age.
  5. Anon04576
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    Yep the staff have to cover themselves of course but I think it's wearing a bit thin with asawa now. A nice compliment in some ways too.

    Remember being in the pub with my best mate watching his cousin in his band when I was 16. His cousin was the vocalist, his name was Rick Astley.
  6. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Quite A while ago, only wanting some cans of pear cider on a good deal from Tesco, I went to the self service thingy to pay for it.
    I was asked for proof of age on the small screen.. :poop:

    So I picked up my purchase again and went and waited for my turn to pay at the normal till.

    haven't tried to use one of those thingies since.
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  7. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Did the self service till direct you to the regular manned till with the message on the screen?
  8. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    No.
    Somebody is supposed to jump in and push buttons............
    The attendant did come wanting to help, but I left it anyway.
  9. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Totally agree Dom, I utterly hate the damn things, if for convenience you buy anything containing alcohol at an unusual time of day you have no choice but to use these damn machines.

    For once I find myself agreeing with the service approach in the Philippines although I don't agree with the low wages.

    In a supermarket it is not my job to work for the bleedin supermarket, they are not making my shopping cheaper if I use their horrible robot interfaces, so why should I volunteer to be a temporary employee of Tesco or Morrison's (the only ones round here).

    So yes a few computer programmers like me made a little bit of money, some hardware manufacturers made a bit out of building the robot tills, and the electric bill to run them is a lot less than the salary of the equivalent employees even though they need at least one robot supervisor for the booze sales.

    This still saves the supermarkets an awful lot of money! At the expense of our effort at deciphering their machines.

    Hate the damn things, I would accept it if they had reached the point where RFID tags were on everything and they could read an entire cart accurately in one go then display the total on my Cellphone and allow me to confirm or reject the sale by voice through my Cellphone and bill the card I have chosen as the default for that supermarket without revealing my identity to their marketing department, but that is still some way in the future.

    Loose goods are still of course a problem, Onions and other vegetables, how could you implant an RFID tag that accounted for the weight, one of the nice things in a supermarket is that loose vegetables are massively cheaper than any form of packaged veg, until they decide to find a solution for this one they can't do truly fast basket or cart checkouts.

    RFID is a small chip device with embedded code that can identify the product and the price, and if you wanted any other property like the product's stock location you can add that to the device, when you run it past a reader it can be read remotely very fast, no need to orient a product to a laser and basically no need for paid humans.

    I want the people, and I want them to have jobs, I don't personally talk a lot but it is nice when I do sometimes strike up a conversation with a lady or an gentleman at the till :)

    While I believe that one day all of us should be removed from menial positions I accept the reality that right now low grade work provides meaning and purpose in life for a great many people
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  10. Dave_E
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    Yes, society should be based around the people, we don't want the damned machines taking over.

    All this guff about "removing people from menial positions" makes no sense if people are quite happy doing what is termed "low grade work".

    Only the current globalist cultural genocide agenda is served by such a viewpoint.

    </rant>
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  11. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    My wife works in a supermarket. Anyone who looks under 25 is asked for ID.

    What is all this talk about "menial jobs" and "low grade work"?

    I have qualifications. I go to an office or work at home. I am the main breadwinner in our house - earning about 3 timnes as much as she does. In no way does that make my wife's job "menial".

    She probably works harder than I do. She spends the day chatting to people, she has people who come into the shop regularly and some bring her stuff like food they have cooked or just seem happy to stop for a quick chat with her.

    Her job helps make the world go round. Mine is self-indulgent and in terms of the community pretty pointless. If she left her job half the town would wonder where she'd gone! If I left mine I'm not sure anyone would particularly care.

    If any job is menial it's mine. Sitting around all day producing rubbish on a computer that nobody even gave a passing thought for 20 years ago and probably nobody will give a stuff about in 20 years time either.
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  12. oss
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    I would define menial as repetitive dull boring work requiring little skill or training, and that can include a lot of computer work, using the term "low grade" I did not mean in terms of rank, I meant in terms of mental reward, stimulus and engagement.

    Jobs where people are effectively used as machines, and have to maintain a constant performance rate over extended periods because their rate is monitored are not good jobs, I would eventually want to see the world rid of work like that.

    And in the not very distant future a great many current white collar workers are going to find themselves out of a job through the gradual introduction of more and more AI over the next twenty years it will decimate the workforce and it will happen to people who are totally unprepared for it.

    What will we do then, the idea that magically loads of new jobs will appear to make up for the old jobs isn't going to happen this time, but at the same time you can't run an economy with half the people unemployed.

    People should not be treated as machines in the workplace, I want rid of work like that for everyone one day, but neither can they just be discarded from the economy because if they are then everyone is screwed business and employee alike.

    Big changes are coming much bigger than anything seen before and employers and businesses are going to have to bend their current ideas a great deal in order to survive, society will have to change.

    My point though regards my reply to Dom was that for shops at this time I personally simply don't want to be the supermarket's temporary checkout robot.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Well said,s the cleaner at the Nasa space station said to JfKs question " hi im jack kennedy what have you done today?"his reply was " today I've helped man go to the moon"
  14. oss
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    Oh for gods sake, of course people find dignity in all jobs, that doesn't mean that the job is inherently a good one, should we bring back chimney sweeps and force children up chimneys.
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I wouldn't advocate children going up chimneys but chimney sweeps are still being used.
  16. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Yes I am well aware of that, but there are nowhere near as many as once there were, work and jobs change.
  17. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    At the end of the day work is all about putting bread on the table, lucky for us British chaps that we are the main bread winners, the wives' can do any job of their liking, just a Brucie bonus having them in employment :)
  18. tipipay
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    Hahaha true! Bought some bottles of beer and the cashier asked for my ID because [I think] I looked quite young for my age. She said: Can you please show your ID, love? I was completely blank for a moment. I thought, WHY? I panicked for a bit there. :lol: She was nice enough to keep the beers behind the cashier desk so I don't have to go back to the shelf. When I got back, I brought a PHL government ID and passport to show I'm old enough. :lol: I can't blame her as she was just doing her job. But it was a bit tiring to go to shop and do it again.:blackeye:

    Lesson learned:
    Bring ID when purchasing alcoholic drinks. I don't want to get into the same situation again. :ninja:
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  19. Timmers
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    I agree, in years to come a lot of jobs will have vanished possibly even Doms checkout machine that will have been replaced with a robot that can tell your age :)

    I think high street banking is the one that stands out for me, that's where a lot of white collar jobs have already disappeared, I literally cannot remember the last time I went in a bank unless I was to count the time a few years back when I went into my local branch in the forlorn hope they would stamp my bank statements.

    Technology is incredible, not so good for the people being replaced by it though. And yes, what will the economy be like when half the workforce is idle?
  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I WILL movew
    Will move on

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