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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Fazer1, Jan 14, 2024.

  1. GJD223
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    Sorry I disagree, This may be relevant to other nationals. I know from experience for example that a lot of Chinese were buying property in Cyprus whilst I was there. Part of the package when buying the property was they deposited cash in a local bank account and in return they got an EU (blue card) passport. I personally know a lot of properties were bought and the individuals NEVER went to Cyprus again afterwards, they only wanted the EU Passport. Obviously you will require some kind of income or you won’t survive but LOTS of normal state pension UK citizens retire to Cyprus, even now after Brexit because there is definitely a lateral agreement between UK/cyprus. My experience is of southern (Greek) Cyprus, the rules may be different in the North (Turkish) side of Cyprus. I believe you have to earn 9k annual buy or rent a property. I rented whilst I lived there as resale is hard work, I would recommend renting and if you have a Uk property, keep it and use the rent to offset.

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  2. GJD223
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    Confusing, this points very much towards the likes of the Chinese and Russians that were buying the place up whilst I was there and is still probably going on now. I’m going to contact some friends that I still have living over there and try and shed some light. I still think its fairly easy for UK, we have a different relationship with Cyprus than most other countries, we still have armed forces stationed there and still a lot of UK influence

    I think your link is for anyone outside EU/EEA and although we left, the agreement UK has with Cyprus kept things pretty much the same

    https://cyprusinuk.com/news/brexit-...lic-of-cyprus-under-the-withdrawal-agreement/
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    Yes I think there was a protocol thrashed out onwards from 2018 addressing residents of Ireland Gibraltar and Cyprus stating that if resident prior to 2021 you could remain after brexit.
    Post Brexit the rules of living in Cyprus apply to UK residents of those that are not in an EU country so a residence visa would be required.
    To retire and obviously implies you should not work the monetary needs are as those you have posted however should you require to top up your pension by working you maybe in the realms of needing a residence permit and those monetary values are in the bit I posted
    As Fazer1 is a young 51 year old I suspect he is not looking to retire just yet.
    A pink slip is fine for extending your 90/180 days visa but you cannot work.
    That would be my take on the British side of his couple, the Filipino side is I think the same for any Filipino moving to an EU country Job offer contract, savings, accommodation.

    was typing whilst you added the link
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    @Fazer1 life is certainly throwing you a bad deal at the moment! Sorry to hear about your job loss.
    It’s great to hear that you won’t give up.
    Free yourself from the applied brakes.
    Can you afford a holiday if so to clear your mind why not go over to see your girl? How long have you known her have you met before?
    Clear your head talk through your aspirations and gather her thoughts and make decisions short medium and long term.
    Best of luck moving forward
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    Who is Frazer?
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    Ok Mattcube I see where you’re coming from. Yes, I wasn’t working whilst there and everyone I knew were the same. It’s quite easy to top up, life is pretty relaxed there and there is lots of “cash in hand” stuff around, but that’s no good if you don’t have a pension or some income in the first place.
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    My bad as always you’re looking after me I’ve amended
  8. John Surrey
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    Sorry to hear that Fazer1, yup hard for you now.
  9. John Surrey
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    Sorry to hear that... working in your field can be like that - here today and gone tomorrow.

    Take them to the tribunal if you think you've got half a case.

    I helped someone do it a long time ago and, was ff'ng lots of work and time, but they ended up with more pension and about £8k pay off - so you never know.
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    My mistake humans look for recognisable words, just a bit of word blindness on my part.
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    Pre Christmas there is always a hike in prices due to all the OFWS wanting to get home, yes the prices are good but journey time on the journey's are horrible from China Southern. If you broad brush the China Eastern of 18.45 hours it suggests the 1 stop on China Southern is 18 hours and 10 hours respectively.
    The China Southern they put you in a hotel overnight for such a long layover but 10 hours in an airport. No Deal

    Skyscanner are offering out on Feb 1st return end of the month from 551 with 22 and21 hours journey time
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    Hope we've all got our Fazer's on stun now...
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    Sorry to read that you quit your job, Jim.
    I thought you may do that so it's a new chapter in your life and the best of luck in whatever you decide going forward.
    It is very hard not working when you have worked all your life but if your health is OK, you have everything.
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    I have found that Prices are always dependate on how long it takes to get there. The average flight uk to filo is 18-19 hours, as the hours ramp up then the price gets cheaper. 2 stop overs and you start to get really cheap flights. At the other end of the scale, take a look at the price for direct flight with filo airline - stupid price
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    Dont believe direct flights any more as I understand Philippine Airlines stopped flying london heathrow to Manila in 2022.

    Best option in times of duration tends to be Qatar although transit time is tight. Not missed the connection over a fair number of flights but one of my friends did and ended up with a night in Doha and being flown on the next day which was due to late departure from heathrow. EU late arrival rules mean he got a nice payment.
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    No non stop flights UK to Philippines anymore nearest is Amsterdam to Philippines!
    I’ve always thought a short stopover is useful is good to stretch legs and freshen up.
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    That was 15 years as a full time employee and 8 years prior to that providing them consultancy via my own business.

    I could have kept working for them but I hated every minute of it this last couple of months since the sale was announced on November 1st.
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    Interesting, the Philippines used the CCT Common Carrier Tax to force all the other European carriers out of the Philippines in order to benefit Philippine airlines long distance operations to Europe and in particular London.

    The reason KLM flights to Manila from the UK are three flights now is purely because KLM only have to pay the CCT on the final leg and it was from memory a distance related tax, to acheive that the Philippines effectively forced them out around 2012, KLM took everything out of the country all the servicing catering and engineering a big loss in local jobs and a big increase in the cost of flying to the Philippines for those of us who were loyal to KLM.

    I'm still loyal to KLM but it's a far poorer experience these days flying with them to the Phils compared to even a decade ago, got another flight coming up in a fortnight.

    I might switch to Qatar at some point but currenly this year hoping to regain silver status with Flying Blue which will at least get me an extra bag and priority boarding.
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  20. GJD223
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    yes, I had a very tight changeover with Singapore airlines, I now try and find a 3 hour stop

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