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My Observations of the UK

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by tipipay, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member


    i see no reason to put ones nationality on a CV.

    as regards the care industry----its a known fact on the island where i live Filipinas are very much sought after. my wife had lots of job offers. in fact she was head hunted by the owner for the new job she started 2 weeks ago. now her sister is moving jobs to work there.
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  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Exactly, that's why I suggested stating the nationality for those kind of jobs that go hand in hand with Filipinos.
  3. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Events on the employment front have taken an unexpected turn, thanks to a teenage strop!

    My ex wife, R, is Filipina and a well qualified care worker in the same town. Relations between R and K have been, at best, glacial...

    My teenage son C chose to live with his mother a couple of years ago (under the terms of our divorce he can choose). Yesterday he threw one of his finest tantrums and his mother threw him out; of course K made up the spare bedroom, fed him, calmed him down and sent him back to his mother in the morning full of porridge and scrambled egg.

    The ice being thus broken, R rang just now to suggest that C stays with us every weekend, so I can supervise his homework, and then spoke to K, to mention a vacancy that she knows of in a good care home where R is a friend of the manager, and offered to go with K to the interview!
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  4. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Isn't life strange :)
  5. JoshuaTree
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    JoshuaTree Active Member

    That's really good :like:
  6. Numpters
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    Numpters Active Member

    The thought of looking for a job in the UK honestly gives me anxiety. My partner seems to have high expectations of me since he's optimistic and lucky, having consistently risen through the ranks from a job that was basically handed to him due to his credentials. But I come from a creative field, trained mostly as a writer (amongst other creative jobs) using Filipino English. I feel like I don't have much hope applying for a related job in a country where the vernacular is entirely different, which is totally fine. But it's like I was suddenly stripped off of all my work experience and have to start from the bottom again. Which is also fine, but then there are my partner's expectations... It's a catch-22, really :p

    @Timmers @bigmac I generally don't plan on putting my nationality on my CV. But unfortunately, my uni's name has the word 'Philippines' in it. Can I just omit my uni name or would that look dodgy?

    Also thinking of starting another thread on jobs so as not to hijack tipipay's thread :p
  7. Brom27
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    Brom27 Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I know how you feel @Numpters . Been looking for job prospects from Indeed and I get frustrated just by looking at the qualifications they need. I don't qualify for any of those jobs lol. I don't have work experience here in the Philippines too so that makes it more difficult for me.

    It's quite difficult for some local people to look for a job (since its only a small town), how much more for a foreigner :greedy:
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  8. Numpters
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    @Brom27 True. The one upside though is that we are young. You are young! I wish I was your age :p But yeah, you still have a lot of freedom to choose your career path. Imagine having to move much later! Best of luck to us! :)
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  9. JoshuaTree
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    JoshuaTree Active Member

    You guys will have your work ethic which can count for a lot, you're both obviously articulate and probably naturally enthusiastic - those alone are traits which will serve you well. Search consistently and if you'd like CV advice etc or a check via PM feel free :)
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  10. Brom27
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    Brom27 Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Oh well haha yeah we are young so there's no need to rush. I'm just itching to work to help my fiance. But hey I should really think of the VISA first. Work is life but VISA is lifer :lol:
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  11. Brom27
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    Brom27 Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I can be enthusiastic but not really articulate when it boils down to it haha. Anyway I'll count on you when the CV thingy is up :like:
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  12. JoshuaTree
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    Anytime :like:
  13. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I think you need to put nationality on a cv if you are someone who is in need of permission to work in this country.

    Any prospective employer needs to know the immigration status of anyone they employ.
  14. oss
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    Your standard of writing in English appears to be extremely good, vernacular I would not have thought to be a requirement for good writing, but then again I am not a writer :)

    I did a quick scan and there are about 45 tertiary education institutions with the word "Philippines" in their name (doubtless more than that in reality) but if that institution happens to be UP then I think I would include it :)

    To be honest you should include your University anyway, maybe if it is not UP but does include the phrase "of the Philippines" you could drop the phrase from the name some of them sound ok abbreviated that way. But UP needs to be quoted properly, always remember that a CV is what gets your foot in the door, that is its only purpose, as long as there are no outright lies on it if it gets you through the door you can explain confidently exactly why you left some small details out, in the UK you need to be confident in the way you present yourself in the interview so be sure you remember the subtleties in the way you present yourself in the CV.

    A general rule, more than two pages and it will get binned, the guy or lassie reading it has a pile of these things on their desk and they are not interested in reading a tome, one page is even better.

    Some more rules, no age (as has been mentioned) leave out your more irrelevant qualifications, don't make a personal statement they really don't care what you do on your spare time and it cuts at least one whole paragraph, put all experience in reverse chronological order, they want to know what you did recently don't make them read to page two because you told them first about a summer or part time job working in McDonalds, stick to the facts in all experience don't try to 'big it up', mention any awards or recognition but in a factual manner.

    I do get the onerous job of interviewing people for software development roles every so often and it is not a task I enjoy, the mismatch between the written CV and the actual candidates can be quite depressing sometimes :) particularly with fresh graduates.
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  15. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    Yeah but can't they just find that out at that interview?
  16. graham59
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    Normally there will just be a box to tick... indicating that you are entitled to work in the UK.

    Naturally, they SHOULD check on this later.

    To weed out the 'oldies', they will just ask you for 'survey purposes' or other b.s. to indicate which age range (several choices 25-35, 35-45... ,etc) you fall into.
  17. oss
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    For formal application forms I guess, I think I only ever filled in something like that once and that was over thirty years ago, I admit that I have been lucky and privileged in that respect, if that is standard now then I certainly won't be applying for a new job anytime soon if ever :)
  18. graham59
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    These were forms that my son had. Fortunately I was able to retire from the rat race 5 years ago. :)
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  19. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    I envy you, I am about four years from that which will be a couple of (my) years later than you managed :)
  20. Numpters
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    Numpters Active Member

    Same here! Anyway, I do hope you receive your visa soon. I can't imagine having to wait that long. Btw, when are you planning to move? Just realised we are both moving this year (most likely). I hope we keep in touch once we're there!

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