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My Observations of the UK

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by tipipay, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. Numpters
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    Numpters Active Member

    Hey, thanks for the encouragement and the help! I actually forgot about the work ethic part.
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  2. Brom27
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    Brom27 Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Honestly, the wait is killing me but I'm getting there, perhaps 3 more weeks :frust: If everything goes well I'm planning to move February right away. Fingers crossed. If you're still on this forum, we'll surely keep in touch :D
  3. Numpters
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    Hey, thanks! But yeah, an experienced editor can tell whether or not a piece is written by a native English speaker, mainly due to the words picked and the way a story is told. I know editors who don't want Filipino English writing and they tell their writers to 'anglicise' their writing style.

    It is actually UP, but I imagine that UK employers generally won't care. Am I too pessimistic?

    Thanks for all the application tips! They are useful and I really appreciate the help. You guys are too generous.
  4. Numpters
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    Three more weeks?! We are probably just going to opt for the priority option when the time comes. This is torture! Lol. But if anything, these weeks are going to be your last weeks in the Philippines for a long time. Better savour them!
  5. katkatmachine
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    katkatmachine Active Member

    Oh! A fellow iska! :) im from uplb, batch '06. How about you? ;)
  6. knightstrike
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    knightstrike Well-Known Member

    I find it funny when I read the CVs and include their hobbies. Most of the time, those who do are from overseas.

    But it's something to talk about whilst in the phone.

    'Oh I can see that you enjoy cooking in your spare time? If you don't mind me asking, what type of cuisine do you do? What's your specialty?'

    Instant rapport right there.

    Also, those CVs with pictures! And those with vision and mission/goals statements. Hahaha...

    Those makes my day and I need those because recruitment is such a tough job.

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    In regards to if you have to put your nationality or not, it's best if you don't. I usually just browse through CVs and put it on a separate folder if I see that you include nationality.

    Not being racist but employers usually doesn't want to hire someone who doesn't already have working rights in the UK. Exceptions of course if the candidate is really, really good and the skills are hard to come by

    But do include the country where you have worked if it's not in the UK.

    As a recruiter, it's our job to qualify you where you have worked, relevant experiences, working status in the UK, job availability, day rates/salary, etc.

    We'll ask anyway what your working rights in the UK if you don't hold British citizenship or from the EU.

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    I spoke to this fellow kababayan yesterday. He's from Davao.

    He has very good qualifications. Has worked for a top oil company in the Philippines as a Developer/Consultant. Graduated from Ateneo de Davao.

    He also indicated he has a British stepfather or uncle.

    I wanted to get him in line with my clients but sadly my clients don't want to bothered with the visas as it's expensive and tedious to apply for.

    Hopefully I'll be able to get a client who is open to remote working.

    Good guy and kept on referring to me as sir. I know it's our Pinoy thing but now that I'm here in the UK, it sounds awkward when I hear it. Hahahah...
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  7. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Yes, your pessimism is ringing through loud and clear :) this will change once you have applied for one or two jobs in the UK and have attended a couple of interviews, your confidence will start to build from there I'm sure.

    Aim high in your jobs search, don't settle for second best.

    You chaps are lucky in the respect that your income in the UK will usually be secondary in the household so you are not under as much pressure as if you were the bread winner of the house, relax and enjoy the job seeking experience.

    Don't be put off if it takes months to secure a position, persistence is the key :)
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  8. Maharg
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    I think you are wrong about nationality. I think you should include as much information about yourself as possible as concisely as you can.

    Including your nationality plus the fact you have the right to work here seems logical and something a prospective employer would need to know.

    I don't think it has a negative bearing on anything.

    When my wife started looking for work here we pt that on her cv and in any application forms. She had a few interviews and got a job relatively quickly so it didn't prevent anything.

    The job she eventually got was from an online application form that I actually filled out for her! She didn't even know she'd applied (or more likely forgotten I'd told her) when they called her for an interview.

    I think it helps a lot if the English person in the relationship helps with applications.
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  9. oss
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    I thought it was UP :) a lot of them might not know that it is the country's top University but you never know they might look it up, one can always hope :)
  10. oss
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    Do you have to edit the CV's before you present them to the end client?

    Some agencies have presented us with abbreviated versions of a candidate's actual CV sometimes they have really butchered it :) occasionally they make no sense at all because everything has been moved round so much.

    It also surprises me when the recruiters send me the 10 page tomes, I never understood why they did that.

    The personal statement might lighten your day as a recruiter, you'd be surprised how many graduate Brits do it too, but if I were you I would edit it out of the details you send the client as unless they have an HR department the folk that have to read the CV's are not professional interviewers and often resent the task :)

    There are UK companies open to remote working, I would never have got involved with the Philippines if my customer had not continued to recruit and outsource to the Philippines after their joint venture factory in Batangas with Sumitomo failed and was closed.

    The very first Filipino that I ever met was a young programmer who had been brought over to the UK to learn the ERP system for the factory back in the Phils, I heard the word more times in first two minutes than I would ever hear in a year, I stood there and looked at him and said 'David, ma name is Jim, it's no 'Sur' we ur aw the same here' in a Scots accent of course though maybe not as thick an accent as that example :)
  11. Numpters
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    Hi Kat! I'm from Diliman. Student number is in the very late 0s :p
  12. Maley
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    @knightstrike do we have a separate thread on what to put in a CV? I think a lot of topics have recently been about looking for work. And being headhunter, it would benefit a lot of the new members if we have a separate thread for top tips and tricks
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  13. Methersgate
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    Excellent advice from a headhunter.

    The "Sir" thing...

    I have Filipino friends of my age with a similar educational background and often better careers who call me "sir". I know they are just translating "-po" and that this is normal in Filipino English but I am glad to see that you already find this odd!
  14. tipipay
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    I feel you @Numpters re: job. It's a bit daunting but I'm positive we will all soon overcome this. We'll just have to try harder to blend in. Also, be attentive with the accents and the environment. As much as possible, socialize with other people -- this is important. This will promote a healthy relationship as that will not make you limit yourself to your fiance and will let you grow as a person. Another plus of socializing is you'll get to know other people and maybe make friends (be cautious still).

    No worries about hijacking this thread. ;)
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  15. tipipay
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    Maybe @knightstrike can start a thread about jobs/finding a job as you're the one who's into that field. You can give tips and all. :D
  16. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    yeah--come on @knightstrike --heres your chance to really expel yourself.
  17. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    'expel' himself ? :D
  18. Timmers
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    Gol lad bigmac, a lot of recruitment chaps I've dealt with could do with expelling :)

    Had one on the other week telling me about this so called super job, turns out it was for the last company I'd worked for, he had not even bothered to read my CV that he had found somewhere on the internet.
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  19. Numpters
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    We are indeed lucky and I'm grateful. Thanks for the advice. Will remember these things! :)

    Thanks again for the help! :)
  20. Numpters
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    Thank you! Will keep visiting this thread for your updates :)

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