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No respect, no shame no bal*s

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Mattecube, Nov 11, 2020.

  1. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

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  2. oss
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    A freedom which they are exercising in order to try to fight to preserve future generations.

    There is nothing glorious about death only tragedy, LLoyd George penned the words, the meaning on the Cenotaph, the intent, is the admiration of the terrible sacrifice of all those who fought for us.

    We can do that while also looking forward.
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    "Act Now" is the correct approach.
    There is no time like the present and any publicity to keep this urgent issue in the public eye is important.
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    There is no doubt it's an urgent issue, if its that urgent why did he protest today not yesterday or the day before etc etc?
    Cheap trick, no respect,pushes people away!
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    For me, it is not as simple as that, John.
    People choose times and places where their agenda can be seen by as many people as possible.
    This is why unions often get their members to go on strike at the most difficult times for other people (the public) because the issue is not going to be forgotten and brushed under the carpet.
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    Yes and look at the state of the unions, resented by a lot of the public, loathed in certain communities for the friction they and their member caused within communities and families.
    A spent force hanging on to the past to line their own pockets or massage their own egos.
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    Mike, Oss, I do respect your views on this but I have to disagree.

    I took my time in posting on the subject as I had to think about it and digest the news.

    To say the truth, I am appalled that XR used a sombre occasion like this to highlight their agenda.

    In my mind I would have been more receptive if they had chosen a different place and time. They absolutely lost my sympathy and support thanks to this disrespectful and thoughtless stunt.

    And I wholeheartedly agree with the Colonel...
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    I'm making the point that they had the right to do it, was it in bad taste yeah it was a bit, I would not have chosen to do that on that day, but they were in no way attempting to show disrespect to the dead, so I'm not going to condemn them for this action.
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    Extinction rebellion feel that what they are campaigning for is so crucial that action such as this is necessary. Their case for the children of the future is more important than those of the past...

    Lower level approach seems to fall on deaf ears.

    I agree with their case. But maybe not with this chosen method. But time is clearly running out.
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    The Filipino climate change negotiator in 2012. Naderev Sano. Did the world listen? What does it take?

    “The lead negotiator for the Philippines at the Climate Conference in Doha, Naderev Saño, could not keep back the tears as he made a passionate appeal for real action on climate change. "I appeal to all, please, no more delays, no more excuses. Please, let Doha be remembered as the place where we found the political will to turn things around... The outcome of our work is not about what our political masters want. It is about what is demanded of us by 7 billion people... I ask of all of us here, if not us, then who? If not now, then when? If not here, then where?"

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    Climate change activists blocked the M25 yesterday, people weren't happy, there's footage circulating locally of a trucker dragging a hippy off the road by his hoodie while the police try and stop him.
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    As he is being dragged above his cries for help the truckers dialogue is somewhere along the lines of "F*****g get off the road you f*****g soppy c**t" Screenshot_20210914_081210.jpg Screenshot_20210914_075548.jpg
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    We all know that demonstrations will continue because the stakes are so high and governments around the world are not taking the issue seriously enough. The shame lies with all the countries who do not do enough to protect the future of the children who are not even born yet.
    I look at my children and they are already starting to ask questions. Schools are ecologically driven; there will be a groundswell of resentment as time moves on.
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    100% of the people commenting on the trucker/hippy footage were in favour of the trucker, this was right next to Heathrow, climate activists just alienate the general population, look at those guys who climbed up on the train and were dragged off by commuters.
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    This is the groundswell of resentment, stand with your fellow trucker :)
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    I would never show solidarity with a trucker who assaults people because he or she doesn't like what they are protesting against.
    Police lock up violent people all the time.
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    No violence, just removed an obstacle from the road,didn't hit or kick him :) that hippy sees truckers like you as a big part of the problem.
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    If the "hippy" did see truckers as part of the problem, he would be better advised to look at the bigger picture.
    Many truckers would support what their fellow trucker did, but many would not.
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    I think the majority would support the average working guys actions :) I think they were there for three? hours?

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