previous visa refusal

6 yrs after my spouse visa refusal (marriage void)2009. I will apply again..do I need to write a letter of explanation? Why I got married before the annulment of my first marriage? I got married because my ex got married to another woman 4 yrs before I met my present husband. That means if he is free to marry ...so do I. . To make sure I requested cenomar from nso and I got one(red ribboned) before I married my present husband but just came to know when I apply for settlement I've got existing marriage contract. I tried to find the people responsible but I got nowhere but to start dissolving a marriage that had been dead for a long time. Nullity if marriage been granted 2013. Do I need to write a letter with my application?

Try to explain your situation a little better babesphil, I do not understand all you are saying

Sorry...2008 back in phils my settlement application was refused. Due to marriage to my husband is void of being bigamous. They have the copy of my existing marriage contract way back 1983. I got a cenomar from nso red ribboned by dfa manila and my ex already married another woman 2001 4 years before I met my new husband. I was confused..lawyer advice me to file petition for nullity of marriage which I did.and was granted 2013.

Now it shows that my marriage to my present husband is 2005 before my annulment 2013. Do I need to explanation letter with my application? I still have the 2005 cenomar issued on hand

Hi,

Unfortunately you still got an existing valid marriage hence your application was declined. Just because your ex got married doesn't mean that you can do the same. I think what you need to do is write a covering letter including your court ruling and take it from there. I take it you remarried your present husband to make your marriage with him legal?

Mine got declined in 2004 as embassy insisted my marriage was null and void. What it is, my first marriage was null and void as my 1st husband was already married before we got married. I explained this together with the letter from my solicitor at that time but embassy insisted because there is no paper from the court confirming I was free to marry before i married my 2nd husband so my application got refused.

In 2005 the court ruled that my 1st marriage is null and void or in courts term "void ab initio" which means it never existed hence my 2nd marriage was legal without having to remarry him and we reapplied got declined again then filed an appeal then they have overturned their decision and the rest is history.

Good luck with your application.

Joy

When you fill out the application for the settlement visa it will ask you if you have been married before and if so when was it dissolved, it also asks for the names and DOB of former partner. As evidence of divorce/annulment it might be a good idea to submit a letter of explanation along with the official documents you have proving you were officially and legally divorced/annulled. Put a lot of time and effort into this one to get it right, I realise that your past marriage history is hard to explain but you must do it and do it well.

I think it is extremely important that you keep your explanation concise and clear as not to confuse the case officer dealing with your application.

Life is never simple is it?

Thanks for the info mine also court declared it void ab initio. I was so st#@# to just rely on somebody. Anyway I've got all the court ruling on hand. We tried to contact the local registry office in UK and ask about our situation. They said that our marriage in UAE is valid and they double check the situation in their main office. They said we cannot get married again. As we are married to each other . I am getting crazy we just wanted to put things in the right track

Relax, it will all come good in the end, with a little effort

You're right.. never be simple..it never too late to rectify your mistakes.prise is too much especially if there child involve in the marriage.

You'll be fine, just spend a little time getting the explanation and paperwork right, you're honest and you have nothing to hide, its all about convincing the case officer of the same

Timmers has a point, you need to really take your time filling this forms and provide more documents than required as you have to bear in mind they will decide on your application basing on the documents you have presented when you submit your application. If it gets declined and you subsequently provided or divulged information that you didn't on your application they can't review your appeal based on this new information and unfortunately it will be a wasted application, so take your time and if you can see someone who is really well versed with this, that would be great. I was fortunate enough to come across a solicitor who didn't charged us with an extortionate amount so I guess that helped me a lot.

I wish I can say use my case for example but it didn't went to court as my solicitor have already asked for the entry clearance manager to review mine within the period that you are allowed to appeal while your paper are still in the Philippines and it was him who decided that I have a valid argument and overturned my refusal.

Keep your chin up, I managed to overcome it and it took me 2 refusal (I know it doesn't install confidence) and I came thru in the end.

Good luck x

Listen you will get thru this, I know my 2 decline/refusal doesn't instill confidence but I managed to get thru it, you just have to persist and keep trying and if you have the documents use it. Don't rely on someone who doesn't really know because all they are interested is making money out of you. Check and double check, I got a good feeling you have a more positive case as you have your court documents. Make sure you put a covering letter together with the court documents, like what Timmers said you'll be fine, fingers crossed you'll be here in no time x

Thanks for the moral support. I am worried because my son and my husband needs me to be with them in UK. My husband is a straight forward man and he loves his country and wanted to raised his son there. I just to be with them. We are not getting younger my husband is 60 and I am 52 we just want to spend the rest of our lives as family. There I am getting sensitive now ..it's a good feeling to know that somebody cares

Because I know what it's like, your future being decided by someone who is justifying their job. When I applied for mine, this forum didn't exist yet, you got us to sound off and if we can help we will, hang in there you'll be here before you know it. x

Thanks lot joy

If I was in your position I would be very tempted to visit a lawyer and get him to write a letter covering what happened with your marriage and so on, and he would also be able to help with the order the documents could be presented relating to the marriage.

Wouldn't cost the earth and it will give you more confidence when you submit your visa application. Just a thought.

We are in Qatar I don't trust lawyer here. But I'll try if I can find one..ahhh I just remember my husband consult migration adviser for a fee. She told him that it's not a problem as long as the marriage is recognised in the country where it originated then it's recognised in UK. Then she start discussing about the financial requirements with my husband. Is that true? ..coz I bet I never submitted false or forged documents even that false NSO CENOMAR is authenticated and certified by several authorities in phils. My marriage contract is certified by ministry of justice and foreign affairs and Phil embassy UAE.

Where abouts is your husband? Is he in the UK or is he with you?

He is with us since we got married 2005 we were in UAE .then got a job offer in uk but they refused my visa he just complete his probation period ,then he left the job. He doesn't like to go back to an empty house.then he accept to work in qatar. just for us to be together. But now he want us to go home . he want his son to be uk next school year and I got my nullity done. And I think we qualify on financial requirements . And most of all to look after my mother in law she is 87 and alone.

I take it you are also working there and you are a resident in Qatar am I right? In my case my 2nd husband at the time (I re-married 3rd time) who is in the UK was the one who scouted for a solicitor here in the UK. If you were to hire a solicitor, in my own opinion it's best if it's from UK. I'll try and dig out my previous application and what documents I have submitted. If I am right, you can apply in Qatar as you are a resident, am I right?

Yes joy.. we are resident of Qatar since 2009. That's why I have to do the application here because in the Phils is so complicated. Especially if you are out for a very long time.