State of Emergency in Charlottsville

Worth remembering that the vast majority of Americans who object to the "rewriting of history" are not white supremacists or neo-nazis, despite what the biased media wishes to portray.

Maybe, but the neo nazis and white supremacists ride on the back of the well meaning majority and spoil it for everyone else.

We see similar re-writing of history attempts here from time to time. Remember the African Oxford undergraduate who tried to get a statue of Cecil Rhodes removed - never mind the fact that the student was a beneficiary of the eponymous scholarship. Now there's some snowflake scribbler for Sky News who wants Nelson and his column removed from Trafalgar Square - because as a member of the House of Lords, he spoke-up for plantation owners in the Caribbean who may have had slaves working for them. And that's something they had in common with their Dutch, French and Spanish counterparts - oh and Americans too.

There is an interesting statue in Manchester of Abraham Lincoln. He wrote to the people of Manchester thanking them for their support and courage during the American civil war. Seems strange until you dig underneath. I've pinched this from an online y an American piece obviously but its very interesting when you want to think about forgotten history.

As you probably know during the Civil War the North imposed a Naval blockade on the South. The economic hardship that this caused was an important factor in the North’s victory. What I didn’t know was that the blockade also badly hurt the people of Lancashire, England. At that time the mills of Northern England produced the fabric that clothed the world. Seventy five percent of all the cotton grown on Southern plantations was sent to Lancashire where it was spun, dyed, and woven.

A year into the war and the embargo found Northern England in real distress. Sixty percent of its mills were shuttered, thousands of people were without work. The desperate wealthy mill owners started lobbying the British government to send the British Navy to break the blockade and let the cotton through.

Then an amazing thing happened. The workers themselves organized a mass meeting in the Manchester Union ( sic Free Trade ) Hall to discuss the matter and those working class men, who had the very most to lose, chose to refuse cotton grown by enslaved hands. The blockade held and the men did indeed lose. In one town alone only five out of thirty-nine mills continued to operate. People went without fuel for heat, there was wide spread starvation, families lost their homes. And still--an ocean and a world away from a war in a place they had never seen--the people of Manchester chose to live and die by their values. They would not support slavery.

When the war ended that letter came from President Lincoln and it was followed shortly after by ships loaded with food and supplies for the people of Lancashire from the people of America, in gratitude.

And that is how I ended up crying in the rain 4,500 miles from home, in a square named for Lincoln in a country that he never set foot in.

For all the rhetoric, the civil war involved real people dying for a just cause.

The difference is saying something never happened vs saying something happened differently. You cannot say the holocaust never happened, but you can try and say it happened differently. There is too much collaborating info and sources these days to destroy an historical event but if you control the record, you can change it to suit.

Dangerous words.

Taking down objectionable monuments from the past is not rewriting history.

But then you are into what is objectionable and what is not to people.
Is Churchill's are the Beatles is queen Victoria's in Windsor what about Nelsons Column?

ESPN pulls Asian-American announcer from Virginia football game because he has a Confederate general's name!!


In the wake of the events in Charlottesville, Va., ESPN decided to pull one of its announcers from calling a University of Virginia football game -- because his name is Robert Lee.

Lee, an Asian-American sportscaster who started with the network in 2016, was moved to a different game "simply because of the coincidence of his name," ESPN said, referencing the Confederate general Robert E. Lee.

On Aug. 12, violence broke out at a protest from a white-nationalist group opposing the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville. A driver ultimately rammed his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one woman and injuring more than a dozen other people, police said.


Robert Lee.

ESPN, which has faced accusations of liberal bias that some observers believe has led to a downtick in viewership, said it moved its announcer to the Youngstown State game at Pittsburgh.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...me-because-has-confederate-generals-name.html

Extremely
Stupid
Politically correct
Network

If you think any of them is objectionable then perhaps you should consider tearing-down and destroying the statue of Karl Marx that is to be found in Highgate Cemetery. After all, in terms of the subsequent body count, he did have the single worst idea in human history.

I don't find any of them objectionable!

I never for one moment imagined you did! The "you" in my reply are all the liberal snowflakes out there who object to statues of Confederate Generals, British Admirals and altruistic benefactors.

So are we saying it's okay for the kkk, nazis, white supremacists and far right extremists to latch onto these particular monuments and adopt them as symbols of what they and their movements stand for?

Seems like the majority of locals don't want their history destroyed by the hard lefties either, hardly surprising that people of many political persuasions become involved, but sadly their heroes are destroyed, history is rewritten and replaced by falsehoods.

History is history and the basis of the future.

Awesome...

Wise words.

I see. So that's okay then.

Most definitely not.

History is history, political extremists should never be allowed to change it.