Traditional Britain Group

Anyone but them to run the country. Whichever way you look at Godfrey Bloom, a closet racist or fruit cake ( and he is either one or the other ), he isn't fit to represent the UK in europe or at home.

Rees-Mogg (son of William Rees-Mogg the one time Editor of the Tmes I think) says that he is not a member and is shocked that they behave as they do - he gave a speech to them then found out what they are like. so he gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

Benefit of doubt withdrawn, in that case!

The people who they represent obviously don't think so. But then they are in a small minority. Farage was quick to to try and mop up behind Bloom's blooper, indicating that he wants to capture votes from the public that might otherwise be horrified by Blooms remarks. Unfortunately for UKIP this incident has done them no favours as Bloom's intent is very obvious and further exacerbated by his schoolboy attempts to try and cover up for it.

Apart from the small and limited minority of UKIP support, most people will vote for one of the other 3 parties (in England).

What is so very different between Godfrey Bloom's "Bongo Bongo land" reference and describing members of a political party as "inbred toffs" and "fruit cakes"? Labour Party supporters would, I'm sure, object to being referred to as "Lenin's Lackeys" just as the Greens would burst into tears if their message was cited as "the shrill utterings of bobble-hatted tree-huggers". (I'll leave the Lib-Dems alone on this occasion, they have more than enough problems as it is!)

And tell me, what is so very different about offering paid repatriation to "non-whites" and this Home Secretary's immigration policy? Both are equally odious and target the same group of individuals.

No they aren't as equally odious. One is distinctly less odious than the other. There are clear differences in degree between them.

There is a difference. One is a group of comparitively disadvantaged peoples and the other is a group of people that are putting themselves up to govern the UK on a supposed professional footing and or represent the UK in Europe ie people that should know better than to use Bongo Bongo land as a "derogatory reference to Third World countries, particularly in Africa, or to a fictional such country".

Godfrey Bloom has no excuses. If he can't be civil where the 3rd world is concerned, as a serious politician, then he ought to be out on his ear.

Lets assume that Godfrey Bloom is not a senile buffoon. Then his choice of words were loaded with intent. Intent to incite.....

These arguments are crackers.

Have people nothing better to do than bullshit that Godfrey Bloom ever intended his "Bongo Bongo" statement to be evil and racist
(which he obviously did not)
whilst ignoring his underlying very good point that a lot of overseas aid is wasted funding affluent lifesytyles and pet projects for despot overseas dictators and corrupt regimes.


What! we are wasting billions funding the Nigerian Space Program whilst we cannot afford to fund our own NHS.

Oh Forget that Far more important that Godfrey used the work bongo which sounds vaguely African, so he must be a right wing racist thug. If he had more hair, a dodgey tache, and a tub of brylcream he would even LOOK like Hitler.

Jeez...

Totally agree Dave.

(Waits for the flames).

So why does nobody even discuss that, why are people chasing ghosts of a non existent right wing jack booted ogre.
The correct action would have been to agree with Godfrey.

Everybody has jumped to the wrong conclusion here, Bongos are from South America /Cuba.

I see no intended racism, why are people so sensitive these days.
If he had used the term "Nigerian" he would most likely have been firebombed!

1. Obviously the Welfare state does need to be far more efficient than it is now. At the moment it struggles to serve the public.
2. Can you really see people marched en-mass onto boats in Southampton docks, no way.
3. "Links with nasty people / thugs", you started off this thread talking about two respectable centre ground politicians. I always view the rogue left wing element as being the most violent. In fact see my comment about firebomb above.

"I see no intended racism, why are people so sensitive these days".

And neither do I..
That said,I don't count as I moved out of Britain and cannot vote as I went and moved to Bongo Bongo land!!
Happy days!!

I seem to recall that it was a Labour toff - Mandelson - who admitted that not only did his government relax the immigration rules it inherited but went far further by having an "open door" immigration policy. And I also recall that famous note left by the Labour Chief Secretary to the Treasury to his successor which amounted to "sorry, old boy, there is no cash!". So Britain's economic plight and immigration mess can be fairly levelled at that party. Not forgetting, of course, that it was that same Labour government which is responsible for authoring a very dodgy dossier about Saddam and Iraq and which led to war: that government has blood on its hands and if there was any justice in this world, Blair and his entire cabinet would be on trial for war crimes.

Some people are missing the point. It isn't the main message that Godfrey conveyed that is of concern. The point is how he made it. He tried to emphasise his point by using a derogatory, insensitive and unacceptable style. The fact that in amongst it he tried to make a valid political point has been lost. It has backfired on him and only UKIPS ardent core of followers believe he wasn't out of order.

UKIP have made a bridgehead in British politics as they appeal to a certain profile of electorate. That type of electorate is quite a narrow one. To build on numbers they would have to bury their xenophobic tendencies, which is why Farage told him to zip it. However these boys have gone as far as they can possibly go on their existing manifesto.

Any one in a Fil Brit relationship of any kind, that is seeking to bring their Filipino partner to the UK would be crazy to vote for UKIP. Same goes for those whose partners are already here and on FLR or ILR. Those who feel there is no need for concern because they have expatriated already or intend to, be careful what you wish for as you may wish to come back to the UK with your Filipino partner some time, if for any reason things don't work out overseas. Don't burn your bridges and vote UKIP or canvas on their behalf.

Well done Godfrey.

So what exactly do you think was his intention?

There's a double standard at play in the UK which I had previously suspected but was confirmed to me over a pint with a pal who'd just retired from the Police Service. A Caucasian who makes a remark likely to cause offence to a member of a minority group risks prosecution; the same is not true in the reverse situation.