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UK visa question from a newbi

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Roger, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. Roger
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    Roger New Member

    Hi all
    Does anyone know what type of visa allows you to apply for another visa while already in the UK. I am in the process of applying for a visitors visa for her and foolishly thought that I could then apply for a ‘family of a settled person’ visa as this visa you can only apply for while in the UK. I also thought this would be a good idea as the six month visitor visa would count towards the two years of proof of living together. Could anyone enlighten me

    Thanks
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  2. Andrea Fidati
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    Andrea Fidati Member

    Im in the same position ....
    Apparently, confronting the conditions between visitor visa and a tier2 work visa ,you can't apply from Uk with a visitor visa for anything else ...

    "What you can and can’t do

    You can study for up to 30 days, as long as it’s not the main reason for your visit.

    You can’t:
    • take paid or unpaid work
    • live in the UK for long periods of time through frequent visits
    • marry or register a civil partnership, or give notice of marriage or civil partnership
    • get private medical treatment
    • get public funds. "
    And again ...

    If you’re applying for a long-term visit visa
    You must also prove that:

    • you have a frequent and ongoing need to come to the UK
    • the reason for your need to come to the UK is unlikely to change significantly while the visa is valid
    • you plan to leave the UK at the end of each visit
    Reference :
    https://www.gov.uk/general-visit-visa/overview

    If anyone knows a different experience is welcome to share
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  3. Maharg
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    Maharg Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I think youd need a student visa or some kind of work visa to stay in the UK. You can't marry on a viitor visa, and you can't apply for a fiancee visa from inside the UK. So once the visitor visa expires she'd have to return home.
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  4. Markham
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    Markham Guest

    The term "long-term visit visa" means a Visitors' Visa that permits multiple-entries over an extended period of time. It does not permit the holder to remain in the UK for longer than would otherwise be permitted.
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  5. Mary Anne
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    Mary Anne New Member

    Hello. I have a 2 year long term family visit visa valid until May 2016. This year, i came to visit UK last January 2015 and stayed until June where I flew back to Manila. After 4 months, I'm planning to visit UK again in 15 October 2015 for 5 months. Do you think they will allow me to enter UK considering my frequent visits. Thanks.
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  6. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    One important thing to remember about UK visit visas is that you cannot remain in the UK for more than six months at a time, for example, if you acquire a five year multiple entry visa it does not mean you can remain in the UK for five years, you are allowed six months at a time.

    I was reading about this just recently.

    Long-term visit visas
    If you can prove you need to visit the UK regularly over a longer period, you can apply for a visa that lasts 1, 2, 5 or 10 years. You can stay for a maximum of 6 months on each visit.
    There’s an extra fee to pay, which depends on the length of the visa:
    • 1 year - £324
    • 2 years - £324
    • 5 years - £588
    • 10 years - £737
    Information regarding visit visas below;

    https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa
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  7. Mary Anne
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    Mary Anne New Member

    Thank you Timmers now I can get enough sleep and wait for another 2 weeks to travel.
  8. Mary Anne
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    Mary Anne New Member

    Hi Timmers, it's me again. I hope you don't mind answering another question. Last January, the Passport Control Officer told me that I can't stay in UK longer than my stay in my home country. Though, at that time she allowed me to enter for 5 months. The thing is, I'm not sure if I've heard her right when she said I can no longer enter the UK again for this year. I don't quite understand since I never stayed longer than six months and my long term family visit visa is valid until May next year. Is there anyone have the same experience?
  9. Timmers
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    I don't know about this, maybe another member can answer your question, there must be something on the Government website that can answer your question. I know you are only allowed to visit for six months at a time but I do not know how long you have to leave the UK for before re-entering. I'm sure there is a rule.

    Here at BF we are more used to people struggling to obtain a UK visit visa, you're one of the fortunate ones :)
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  10. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    I think there is little collective experience on the forum with Long Term Visit Visas and I can find little on the internet either, including gov.uk. I did read on one site something that appears to agree with what @Mary Anne says that you cannot stay longer in the UK than outside the UK during the visa validity period.
  11. Timmers
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    So you are saying for example that if you have a UK visit visa that is valid for five years you are only permitted to spend an accumulative period of less than 2.5 years in the UK?
  12. Howerd
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    That is what I read. It gave an example of if you came into the UK and stayed for 4 months you would have to leave for four months before returning again. No single stay in the UK can be longer than six months. You don't have to return to your home country as @Mary Anne suggested - you could go to another country.
  13. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I get you Howerd, it does make a lot of sense.
  14. Howerd
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    Howerd Well-Known Member Trusted Member Lifetime Member

    But I cannot find that on the gov.uk website. It just talks in general terms
  15. Dav3&Ai5a
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    Yeah, I agree. Cause it might get to them that you've been living in the UK through the frequent visits.. Only a maximum of 6 months allowed per visit :)
  16. Mary Anne
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    Well, this is what I'm worrying about as I'm returning to UK in 2 week time after 4 months. I don't know how will I convince them to let me enter this time. I spent 17 years working in Saudi Arabia alone so by taking a 1 and half year off will give me chance to be with my families both in the Philippines and UK.
  17. Timmers
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    Try to find out beforehand before you fly, if there is a possibility that if you are refused entry to the UK on this occasion that it could jeopardise future trips to the UK.
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  19. Howerd
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  20. Micawber
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    It's been the same case for a number of years that there is no immigration rule or any other regulation that imposes any specific limit on the number of visits you can make to the UK.
    Also there is no specific immigration rule that stipulates "6 months in any 12 month period" or any immigration rule which states that a visitor must "leave the UK for the same length of time as your previous UK visit before before being allowed to re-enter".

    But it is the case that visitors must not "...live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or successive visits, or make the UK their main home"

    However, here's the rub
    Immigration staff at UK ports of entry have full discretion to decide whether to grant UK entry or not visitors.
    This is made on a case by case basis at the time of arrival.

    Based on the travel history you've shared here I personally very much doubt that you'll encounter any problems to enter UK again in October for your family visit but it's really down to the Immigration Desk Officer to decide based on his view of your travel history.

    Here's what the current consolidated Immigration Rules for Visitors states:-

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