Visitor Visa refused twice - Please help

Hello everyone, as per the title I'm in need of some advice on what to do next... I have been applying for a visitor visa for my Filipino girlfriend to come to the UK (which I've visited in Manila 4 times now.) I've attached our refusal letter to this post.

So basically, in our first application in 2013, we failed to provide enough information of our 3 year relationship and they weren't satisfied of our relationship. They also pointed out that my girlfriend is unemployed and fully financially dependant on me, and has provided no previous records of working or any intention to work in future, and that she has no assets or savings in the Philippines.

Now, for this recent application that we submitted, I provided everything I thought necessary to correct the reasons for the last refusal:

We included 3 years chat log history, phone log history, pictures, skype samples, everything, to convince them we are in a genuine relationship - they are satisfied now.

We included a record of her previous employment.
We included a letter from her education provider stating that her enrolment for her study course will commence on the 16th of June 2014. I said in my sponsorship letter that she WILL return before that date, specifically June 11th, so that she can study.
We provided evidence that she lives with her mother and siblings in the same house, including their birth certificates.
We included Bank statements of her account in the Philippines, and a savings account with 30,000php.
I included in my cover letter that I will fully sponsor everything about her stay, accommodation, travel to and from the Philippines, food, everything.
I included a letter from my mother that she is welcome to stay at our address for the entire duration of her visit.
We included a planned itinerary.

And even with all of these documents, they still refused her application...
I mean seriously, It's starting to hurt me now and I really want her to come to meet my family in the UK before we take our relationship to the next level... I don't think its fair that my family and friend don't get to meet her before we get married some day!!! ><

It's a big ask really but I'm guessing here is the best place to get some decent advice... I've been thinking to appeal against the decision because I think that making assumptions that she wont return to the Philippines at the end of her visa is a load of rubbish, in light of all the evidence and documentation we provided trying to correct the last refusal. And also, yes, she is poor, and has no assets... But why should that stop her from being allowed to visit me in the UK? I personally don't have assets but I'm allowed to visit almost wherever I want... Someone I know recently had their visit visa approved where the girl is in exactly the same situation, with no assets, no job, and full financial support from her boyfriend (Who isn't employed).... So why to us? Even though I'm a full time, permanent employee, with a letter from my employer submitted as evidence...

Now another thing I'm considering to do, the same time as an appeal, is to re-submit all the documents we provided last month, with a whole new visa application payment, but provide a VERY in-depth letter about our circumstances... In hopes that they may reconsider...

What else can I do? Is there anything you can suggest I should include in an appeal, as part of an appeal, or as part of a new cover letter or invitation letter for a new visa application?

Sorry for the small rant, I'm just a little depressed about the reason they have declined our refurbished application... Any help or information would be really appreciated!! Thanks in advance


P.S.
Is it true that being declined entry clearance 3 times could affect subsequent entry clearance chances?

That's really sad I can't offer any advice because I am new to all this but I just wanted to say how sorry I am about your situation. This country has serious issues - the whole system is very very wrong. I really hope the future is brighter for you :/

That does look unfair. If she is "not economically well settled in her own country", merely because she is unemployed and is dependent on inward remittances, in this case your remittances, that must apply to an awful lot of Filipinos.

I don't know of a "three strikes and you are out" rule, I only know of the ten year ban for lying, which does not apply here.

Thanks for your replies everyone. So I guess it will just be a waste of my time and money to appeal against their decision? I think I might just do one last visitors application for her with the same paperwork from last month but explain in depth a bit more. I wrote my last invitation letter formal, so maybe i'll add a more personal touch to it.

The problem with a fiancee visa kuya is that i'm not earning the £18,600 required to apply for a fiancee visa, although an agency in Manila claims to be able to work around that rule... Not sure how true that is because its a basic requirement.

Are you able to pump up your income by taking on a part time job or by doing overtime. That works. Anything to get yourself over the threshold.

I'm almost hitting it by doing the overtime but just not enough. Hopefully getting a pay review next month so should be able to get it then And if I do the fiancée visa, I'll be getting an agency to do it so that everything is in place!

Go careful with those agencies. Some are better than others.

I decided after reading the advice here not to go with an agency

A good agency in the UK, conversant with UK Immigration Law, can be helpful.

We were thinking about agencies - does anyone know of a good one or is the general consensus to not use one?

We used Visa Logic. So did my wifes friend, both for her Fiancee visa and her mothers visit visa. Found them ok and well informed.

Your visa will be despatched shortly. Passports can normally be collected from the Visa Application Centre after 3 days depending on which country you applied from or will be couriered back to you only if you have availed of this service. UKVI
i received this email today...is it denied,,,im sooo worried,,plz help

Congratulations.... that means you have got the visa.

really?im still worried ,,,i really dont know if they approved it as long as i can see it myself by tomorrow,,,hoping and praying

thank you alfie

I used capital visas and they were hopeless. Didn't have a clue. I didn't realise it at the time so we submitted a poor application and wre refused.

On recommendation, we tried again with marriagevisahelp, who were very good. Through them i now feel confdent enough to go it alone next time.

I think a good agency is worthwhile if you're not sure what you are doing. I'm self employed and it helped a great deal.

Skitch840, I had a UK visit visa prior to getting married to my husband so it isn't impossible. How is your girlfriend's family financial situation like? Maybe you can make it out that she is not wholly dependent on you and is also dependent on her family with housing, allowances, education, etc.

I know it is BS and I believe you that she will return but then people at the UKBA will prolly think that since she is dependent on you, what is the point to return to the Philippines? She will be a burden of the country if that happens.