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General Election - June 8th

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Maharg, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I know one or two other members here on the forum who have a crystal ball, you're in good company :)
  2. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Hope being the operative word :)
  3. Bluebird71
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    There's a train of thought that makes more sense to me than many others I've read.

    Maybe has called an election with the aim of watering down the right wing of her party (John Redwood etc) so that she can negotiate without having to appease a bloc of MPs who could scupper plans for a softer Brexit.

    Maybe was a remainer, and it's not making a lot of sense that she has gone to the other end of the spectrum.

    Markets buy speculation and sell facts but if this election is to enforce a hard Brexit then I would have expected the pound to drop by 1% not rise by 2.2%!
  4. Markham
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    Quelle surprise :p

    But you'll be in good company as I think it's likely that Tory seats in Remain-voting constituencies will be lost to the Lib Dems. I predict Ukip will take votes from the Tories, not enough to win any seats but enough to prevent the Tories from doing so. There are around 14 Conservative MPs whose majority in 2015 was less than a thousand: I expect them to fall to the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems should to be able to steal Clacton as two pro-Brexit candidates have a slug-fest there.

    I think May may have made the biggest mistake of her life in which case the electorate will never forgive her or the Tory party and they will be just as unelectable as Corbyn's rag-tag misfits.

    I don't think Chris or I have anything to worry about living as expats in the EU :D. I'm becoming confident that we'll be welcoming you to the Eurozone and Schengenland before the General Election in June 2022.
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  5. Markham
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    I suspect the markets are banking on Brexit being cancelled rather than anything else. By the way, what is "soft Brexit" and how does it differ from "hard Brexit"? Both these terms are Lib Dem creations which have no basis in fact: Brexit is Brexit.
  6. Markham
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    No, May has health issues and has likely decided she doesn't want or or need the pressures and stress that steering this country through Brexit will impose on her. It is a pity that she has decided to call an election at this precise point in time as our General Election combined with the French and German ones nixes any hope of negotiating with the EU much before October - after the German elections. And that's if she wins and if she does, I suspect she will resign as party leader and Prime Minister.
  7. Timmers
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    I look at the General election in very simple terms, we are now basically being given a choice of who we would like/trust to lead the negotiations and take us out of the EU.

    Is it Evangelist I believe my own lies Timmy?
    Is it Mr Debonair himself JC?
    Or is it Mrs May?

    Its a no brainer isn't it? :D

    That's the way ultimately that the electorate will look at the forthcoming election.
  8. Markham
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    I see that yet again little Timmy has refused to say whether he believes homosexuality is a sin. He was interviewed by Channel 4 News' Cathy Newman in 2015 and three times failed to answer. She asked him again today for an answer and again he refused. This won't play well among those Remainers who are considering switching to the Lib Dems and by some of its existing (liberal) supporters.
  9. Dave_E
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    I hope that this has been well thought out. :erm:

    Everything looks good for the Conservatives, Brexit, and the UK. Just hope that Cleggie, Farron, and that awful Scottish woman are neutralised by this.

    Ukip, strange situation, I guess that most Ukip supporters will vote Conservative now.

    Currency markets have obviously factored in our stronger negotiating position. :like:
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  10. Timmers
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    That's my take on it too although the remainers for some reason are thinking there will be a softer Brexit if May has a bigger majority, I believe May will be very happy with that train of thought as it will stop them moaning for a while.
  11. Maharg
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    A "soft" Brexit would, presumably, mean staying in the single market and keeping freedom of movement. A "hard" Brexit would be keeping neither.
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  12. Maharg
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    This is a theory that was put across on yesterday's news. By increasing the Tory majority she becomes less reliant on the far right of the party and doesn't need to apprease them by leaving the single market as she wll have more support for a softer exit.

    She was, after all, in favour of remaining so clearly sees the benefits of staying in the single market.
  13. Timmers
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    It will still be the so called "hard Brexit" at the end of the day there is no other option for all the reasons we have discussed many times before.
  14. Timmers
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    Just wishful thinking by the remainers.
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  15. Maharg
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    Don't worry Timmers. There'll still be plenty of dirty Romanians about to clean your car for you. :)
  16. Timmers
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    That we can be certain of whether they are here legally or not :)
  17. Maharg
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    They'll be here legally. Nobody's getting chucked out. They'll get their residence cards for much less than our wive's have to pay for theirs. Everyone who voted Brexit to get rid of foreigners will be crying into their steak and chips.



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  18. Timmers
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    When an end to free movement is brought about and sensible restrictions on skilled/required labour are implemented then the Brexiteers will be happy, doesn't matter how long it takes just as long as it does.
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  19. Maharg
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    I'm sure it will be a great moment for you if it happens.

    The one thing I will be glad to see the back of - which may come sooner - is EU people bringing their spouses from outside the EU here for nothing while we have to pay through the nose.
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  20. Dave_E
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    Soft Brexit does not exist.

    We need to regain control of our markets and our borders from the EU.
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