Brexit talks have begun

The sooner we are out of the undemocratic EU madness, the better.

Oss, do you mean free movement for holidays?

Or do you mean free movement for any EU citizen to access the UK welfare state, whilst benefits are scaled back for those who have made lifelong contributions.

How dare you - just who do you think you are??? So because you despise those of us whose taxes may well have paid for your expensive education so much, you denigrate us by calling us "geriatrics" - and all because we've retired and ceased to be a "productive unit"? Why not go the whole hog and call for everyone over the age of 65 to be euthanised?

I've got bad news for you, buddy boy bigot, you tax-payers pay for us regardless of where we live! In addition to my pension, you tax-payers pay for all my medical needs - the doctors, nurses, tests and the medicines. Not only that, but because I live in EU27, you also pay those for my wife, my two sons and indeed any other dependents I might have. I have also recently discovered that I can - and should - claim UK Child Benefit and as my income is so low, Tax Credits as well.

You have absolutely no right to tell me where I can and can not live. Have you been to war for your country? No, I didn't think so but I have and if I choose to live in the UK I will do so regardless of what you and others like you say.

You have revealed yourself to be a truly nasty individual and I am reasonably confident in believing that if Sean were alive today, he would strip you of your forum staff badge because he would not want such nasty, pernicious opinions being mistaken for the official line of his forum.

There will be no need for a million people, (British Expats living, retired, or working in the EU), to return to the UK.

The initial negotiations are about the rights of such people, and of EU citizens in the UK, something that our Government tried to sort out last year.

Approximately 50% of French sovereign territory was under Vichy governance during the last war and Vichy fully participated in Germany's antisemitic and other programmes.

It's all going to get cancelled anyway.....

Tarzan has spoken.

Brexit could be cancelled because Theresa May failed to secure a parliamentary majority at the general election, former Conservative deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine has said.​

The Tory peer said the possibility of a hard Brexit being implemented had “already gone” after the Prime Minister’s election gamble backfired and saw her forced to rely on the support of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP).

Lord Heseltine, a staunch Remain supporter, told BBC Newsnight it is now “very much open to question” whether Brexit will happen at all.

“The idea of a hard Brexit is not credible”, he said. “I don’t think there’s the majority for it in Parliament. We have a split cabinet, we have a split country and at the first meeting [of Brexit negotiations with the EU] we lost the argument on the issue of the bill we are going to have to pay.”

Brexit is “dead…in the hard sense that we’re going to leave the whole thing and be our own independent, sovereign nation”, the Tory peer added. “That is simply not the way the world is working today.”

The European Commission doesn't agree with you, or so I'm told by those in the know. The Commission's starting position is that British expats will not be protected and have their RPs cancelled whereas migrants from the EU27 and their families will be for ever more including by means of citizenship.

In an earlier post you stated that the EU's position was fixed and that Britain had to accept whatever crumbs it was offered. If that's the case, there would be no need for 18 months of negotiations or six months of ratification proceedings throughout Europe - it could all be done and dusted by the weekend . Fortunately for everyone concerned, you are not in the negotiating team.

Nothing like a hypocrit Mark is there

Make full use of the Four Freedoms

Vote against that right for others (except the wealthy)

Ensure your family ends up with the very EU Citizenship you would deny mine

Bang on a bit about anti semitism to avoid your lack of critical thinking showing up while

supporting Mr Final Solution (not guilty of anything)

Lets hope you get all you deserve

You forget: Remain was supposed to win the referendum and I moved here on that basis. Not my fault if Tony Blair opted out of recognising that British citizens were also EU citizens.

Thank you,. Ma'am.

Five stars on her hat, looks like there are quite a few other countries due to leave as well.

God Bless the Queen.

No mention of Trump's intended or not visit.

There will never be another couple like the Queen and Prince Philip.
God Bless them both.

Oh deary me Markham. That's such a feeble defence of your ridiculous, insulting, statement - and you know it!

Are you really saying that Marshal Petain's treacherous (Nazi) client state was part of a pre-planned Franco-German superstate bid?

There's stretching credulity and there's total codswallop.

Man-up and admit you got this one 100% wrong.

No I did not say that so I suggest you cease putting words in my mouth.

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You are absolutely correct in identifying the dangers associated with a Franco-German superstate and we should not forget the many lives that were lost in trying to prevent something similar some seventy years ago.

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Trying to equate the current EU setup as something similar to what happened in the 1930/40s is arrant nonsense and deeply offensive to the brave citizens of France who stood against the Nazi occupation - the ordinary French people as well as the brave members of the organised Resistance.

Your post suggested that France was somehow in cahoots with Hitler's Germany to work towards a pan- European superstate. As risible as it is offensive - made worse by your feeble attempt to link Vichy France as part of the "superstate" posited by Nazi ideology.

Seeking to invoke the memories of "the many lives that were lost" (in fighting fascism & tyranny) is a new low for you Mark.

Reading some of your recent rabid posts I'm thinking you're losing the plot - and sense of perspective.

Perhaps the clusterfuck that is Brexit - and the realisation that it is going to be very hard to strike a deal on anything like the terms you would wish - and in the timeframe - is beginning to register with you.