That's not right John, asymptomatic people have active replicating virus in their system and will test positive if tested, if their immune system cleaned it up they would not be shedding virus. There are studies showing the same ground glass granulation effect in the lungs of people who never appeared to get sick and other stress markers in their bodies. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200811/asymptomatic-covid-silent-but-maybe-not-harmless
Malcolm are you worried about earlier contact in your family in the last couple of weeks with this lady?
no--not at all. hadnt met with her for--months now. its just that its happenned out of the blue. only likely source of the contact for her is the care home she works in....which means another staff member most likely.
Yes or resident. I vaguely remember hearing something about calls for care home staff to work in only one home at this time, effectively ruling out contract workers.
ha ha--if only. many also work in domicilliary care--going from one private house to another--several a day. You have to realise that many care staff--dont care. its just a job..wages to help keep their family fed. at the height of the lockdown...my wife found out one of her staff was doing cash in hand hairdressing in her own house!! my wife ( registered manager ) runs her care home like a prison. all staff wear PPE all the time. the residents are allowed only one nominated visitor each--the same one every time --to visit--outside in the garden--and no physical contact. But she has no control at all about what the staff do outside of working hours. They are the source of any problems.
That's good that she's that strict, but yes you're right what staff do outside work is potentially very dangerous.
One of our staff reported the other week that his sister who moved in with him just a few months ago with her child and who works in a care home tested positive on her weekly test, so all three of them had to quarantine, none of them got ill and my friend thinks it was probably a false positive test, they do happen, he's in his early 40's I think and his sister is of similar age, but like me he is quite overweight, he lives near London.
Interesting. I haven’t seen the news yet. I think some places in the U.K. are not too far from that anyway now including us up north in Lancashire.
I have a feeling the UK will go into full lockdown again soon. So it will be home schooling when the schools close again.
Yeah even now the real numbers are 3 to 5 times the cases that get uncovered, back in March the real cases were as much as 10 to 20 times the daily test results.
I've not been following John Campbell as often as I did earlier in the pandemic, but I will watch this later.
Likewise, but this video in #1935 looked interesting and his videos may be interesting again as the infections increase again. His update:
Covid spreading faster in England than 'worst-case scenario', documents show: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54750775
At the end of August some of our senior staff had started pushing to set a date to return to the office, they put out a questionnaire to get the views of staff, they were gung ho for going back basically because Boris was saying they should. My reply explained in great detail why it was far too early and why our office would and could never be a safe environment (it's the size of a large house), after some discussion in a management meeting an arbitrary date of 1st Nov was suggested at which point I breathed a sigh of relief as I knew damn fine that there was not a hope in hell that anything would be remotely fixed by now, I was 100% certain that we would be seeing exactly what we are seeing now. The doubling rate is slower than I expected but that is due to many people obeying the rules thank god but I knew that it would be out of control again by now and that there was zero chance of us returning to our office. Saying that a lot of other offices on the estate are occupied just now but in our business we can do our work anywhere, we are not quite as efficient as we were but we've not lost much having to work from home. It was always going to be this bad, probably under any administration the UK might have had.
I was writing a reply to you on this one in the early hours of Friday but I don't know where it went I will watch this again and try to rewrite my reply Mike.