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Brexit and Scexit

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Markham, Mar 29, 2017.

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  1. Bootsonground
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    Really?? Why do you think that Chris?
  2. Bootsonground
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    In reality,I wonder if this could be an option for remainer losers to personally stay in the E.U?
    I might sign up myself ....he he...Best of both worlds until they impose personal EU tax obligations then I will divorce them again!
    The proposal says we could still keep our new Blue Brit passports! Not too shabby!


    Britons must be offered ‘associate EU citizenship’ whatever the outcome of May’s Brexit negotiations, says MEP

    Retaining partial membership of the EU would allow UK nationals to travel and work freely inside

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...could-guarantee-rights-in-europe-after-brexit
  3. CampelloChris
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    I'm not saying I couldn't get in, nor that I couldn't get Melody in to Britain. It's just such a damned hassle, and after all the faffing about getting Melody here to Spain, I kind of fancied ten years of enjoying life here and building up our funds before considering moving anywhere else.
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  4. Bootsonground
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    Relocating can definitely be a hassle for many reasons...Just wanted you to realize that having a Filipino spouse gives you some pretty straight forward options to live here if the worse came to the worse...Easiest way is to meet her at an airport somewhere like HK and travel into the R.P with her (or from Spain) and request a one year visa free stay.
    Of course,the biggest issue here is earning a living!
    Completely understand your reasons for fighting your corner in Spain but still worthwhile considering alternative plans should it all go pear shaped..
    Can you satisfy UK spouse visa requirements just in case?
  5. Markham
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    He doesn't need to, he already satisfies the requirements for a Family Permit.
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  7. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Whilst the Sun and Michael Howard foam at the mouth over Gibraltar (so much easier than talking about the awkward details of Brexit), they miss the real point. There will obviously be no outright confrontation. Instead Spain will be freer to make life more difficult for Gibraltarians. Our best protection against that was remaining in the EU.

    This is somewhat analogous to tariffs vs non-tariff barriers. Whilst Leavers tend to focus on the former, it's the more subtle barriers to trade, like arbitrary rules on origin or quality, that matter more. And what's the best protection against those? Being in the single market, with a common rule book and a common arbiter of those rules.
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    Dear Leavers,

    Behold the forces arrayed against you!

    Resistance is futile!

    It's not too late to change your minds...

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  9. Aromulus
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    Dear loser.

    Give it a rest with the silliness.
    Grow a backbone and for once support your country instead of appeasing non elected european dictators.
    Tha fat lady has sung and the european gravy train will arrive to the last stop.
    Your lack of patriotism is shicking. No pride whatsoever.
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    I have marked the above post as "informative" because it tells us so much about the man who wrote it.
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  11. Markham
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    And there speaks a European migrant who demonstrates more patriotism for his adopted country than the two Remoaner members of this forum combined.

    If anyone really thinks that the Gibraltar issue could have been avoided by not Brexiting, then they delude not only themselves but try to delude us as well. You only need to look at the facts - that Spain has been stepping-up its hostility regarding Gibraltar by subtle and not so subtle means. The latter include incursions by Spanish vessels into Gibraltarian waters, temporary blocks of the border crossing by Spanish guards and interference in air traffic whilst the former include the refusal by King Juan Carlos to attend Charles and Diana's wedding because their honeymoon cruise would begin from Gibraltar. The Queen last visited Spain in 1988 but although Gibraltarians pleaded with her to include a visit there, she couldn't venture further south than Madrid otherwise her trip would have been cancelled. A similar condition will almost certainly be placed on her movements when she makes a reciprocal visit to King Felipe's State Visit to the UK with Queen Letiza at the beginning of June. Not forgetting, of course, that Spain has similar colonial outposts in Morocco - Ceuta and Melilla - glasshouses and stones come to mind.

    Oh - and don't forget that ten thousand Spaniards cross the border each morning and evening between their homes in Spain and their jobs in Gibraltar. Cleaners are ten a penny in Morocco ...
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  12. Maharg
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    What the bloody hell has voting remain got to do with patriotism? Jesus Christ!! You're all potty.
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  13. Markham
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    We're talking about people's attitudes, not their actions. Voting is an action, patriotism is an attitude.
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    You're right of course, the area of Spain adjoining Gibraltar has a 36% unemployment rate compared with 1% on the rock.
  15. Methersgate
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    Methersgate Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Mark is telling us that 48% of the people who voted are unpatriotic.
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  17. Bluebird71
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    How is Gozo, Suffolk this afternoon?
  18. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I believe a lot are for sure, not getting behind your country (which you are obviously not) is unpatriotic in itself is it not?
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  19. Bluebird71
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    Nothing more patriotic than moving abroad to pay fewer taxes.

    One man's "patriotism" is another man's method of controlling large portions of the populace.
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    "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
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