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Madonna could be banned from Philippines

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Micawber, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. whipster
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    it is not straightforward, to tell apart from one and another south east Asian nationality, on the London Tube. Just by looking at them. With no language or other clues. They could be Filipino. They could be Thai. They could be Indonesian. Just by looking at them. Who knows. There is half a billion south east Asians on the planet and it can be difficult to tell.
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    can we nip this spelling mistake in the bud please. It's Thais, and Filipinos.
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    hey. Let's get one straight here. Liverpool would be a Great British city even if the Beatles hadn't happened to come from there. It's probably in 3rd position after London and Edinburgh.
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    How about we nip this capital letters start sentences issue in the bud please ;) :lol:
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    you haven't analysed it correctly. I can start PARAGRAPHS with small-case letters, but I never start sentences with them. Let that be a lesson to you.
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    Never said it's not. But since I haven't been there and I only know to associate it with the Beatles, then that's how it's going to stay until I've visited.
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    The start of a paragraph is the start of a sentence, but fair point. (edit: the fairness that I am agreeing too, is in the point that I did not express myself accurately)

    I am not normally one of the grammar police but if you go round correcting people's spelling it might be wise to at least try to write with reasonable regard for the rules of our language.

    P.S. I very often don't obey grammatical rules, however you will find almost no other instance where I have tried to correct anyone on this forum.
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    I went to a Grammar School many moons ago and, as a sentence starts a paragraph, a paragraph cannot start with a small case letter.
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    It's not a spelling mistake, it's a grammar mistake Mr Smarty Pants. I'm fully aware of that but thanks for pointing out my error. I'm not sure why I did that. Not sure you need that comma in the last sentence btw.

    My grammar mistake was a one off and not one I would normally make. Your 'start a sentence with a small letter' thing is clearly through lack of knowledge.

    It's interesting reading all your comments about stuff, and i often ask my wife (who is Filipino and also proper 'street level' and has lived in the squats, not just some hanger on like you).

    So I asked if Filipinos know The Beatles. She said 'Of course. They are the number one'.

    She may be basing that on her own family, but it shows your assumption that people in The Philippines don't know The Beatles is incorrect.
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    My wife hadn't heard of the Beatles, not every over there has.
    She did know some of their songs though.o_O
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    it is punctuation. Innapropriate use of the apostrophe. It is a common error. And people only make this mistake when it is non-white/Asian people like Thais and Filipinos. They never make the same mistake by writing American's, Australian's, or German's.

    I never said that the Beatles are unknown. They are known. They are just not anything like as well-known in the Philippines as they are in the West.

    basing your perception of where they are coming from on what your wife, or a girlfriend says will give you a skewed impression, of the average Filipino. Your wife or girlfriend will be geared to western culture. That could be why she is with you in the first place. But not all Filipinos are geared to western culture to the same degree and some of them aren't geared to it at all. So what it means is, is that a lot more Filipinos have never heard of the Beatles, than westerners have never heard of them.
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    that's exactly what I said. They've heard the songs because they are sung - sometimes but not incessantly - on videoke and Filipino bands cover them. The songs come over on the radio and might even be used on television commercials and the like. But as for the band the Beatles itself, they may easily never have heard of them.
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    Actually she know's The Beatles because her dad loves them, not because she is tuned to Western culture.

    It may be a lot of Filipinos don't know them because of an age thing, whereas young British kids like mine would know them because - get this - they do them 'in History'.

    The misplaced apostrophe was a mere oversight on my part. Possibly because I changed the sentence round or something while using a tablet. Who knows. Sod all to do with referring to Asians. Never heard anything so daft in my life.

    Anyway, your starting of your post with a small letter proves to me you are just here on a wind up.
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    "The misplaced apostrophe was a mere oversight on my part."

    it is just a curious thing I have observed. Many times, you see Thai's and Filipino's written down. It's very common. But you never or almost never see American's, Australian's, German's, and Italian's written down the same way.

    demography may well at least partly explain why not every Filipino has heard of the Beatles. The average Filipino is 24 years old. That could well be why Frank Sinatra songs are so rarely sung, and when they are sung, they are always sung by older guys. Sinatra songs are just not fashionable. But even teenage lads can have a go at Green Green Grass and Delilah, and Tom Jones is older than most of the Beatles are/were.
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    And what about Eraserheads, who like to refer to themselves as 'The Filipino Beatles'? Why would they do that?

    Your average Filipino who is happy to just sing karaoke and settle for the cover version tosh that gets served up on mainstream tv might not be clued up on The Beatles, but any that are genuinely into music would know full well who they are.
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    so what you are saying is that a kid in metro Manila/NCR who has a much higher standard of living, matters more than some other much poorer kid up the mountain in Misamis Oriental does.

    when the relatively rich kid in metro Manila/NCR does videoke he sings in English, and has heard of the Beatles, whilst the Misamis Oriental kid only ever sings in Tagalog or Bisaya, and doesn't give a **** about any Beatles.

    this means that the Manila/NCR kid matters more?

    no wonder we get accused of cultural imperialism so often.
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    You think my wife is a rich kid? You know nothing.

    When she moved to Manila from the family nippa hut in Leyte, she lived in the squats with her uncle.

    I've been to her nephew's funeral wake in her sister's squatter area in Paranaque. He died while I was there because he fell and banged his head and not one hospital would treat him when started having convulsions in the night because they couldn't afford it.

    So don't come out with claptrap by implying she is some rich kid. She's not.

    Oh yeah, and most of the karaoke songs I've heard the family do arein English.
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    "You think my wife is a rich kid? You know nothing.

    When she moved to Manila from the family nippa hut in Leyte, she lived in the squats with her uncle."


    I never said anything about your wife. Why should I care, about your wife. The only person who has mentioned her is you.

    I've had Leytana girlfriends that could sing well in English, liked the Beatles songs, and grew up in shacks too. So what. They had neighbours who also grew up in shacks but who didn't sing in English and didn't care about Beatles songs. They are just as Filipino and not better or worse as each other.

    this idea that a wife or a girlfriend is a typical indicator of an 'average' Filipino is fatally skewed, and frankly I'm amazed that you can't seem to see that. As a moment's thought ought to show anyone, that they are with you in the first place indicates that they have a bias towards western culture. Whereas a lot of Filipinos don't have the same bias at all. They don't care about western culture. So what. Why is it that you seem to be making out that the one who has a bias towards western culture is the 'superior' one?
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    If you read back through the posts, then yes you were refering to my wife through implication.

    Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that you are just a troll so I won't respond to you again.

    Enjoy dragging this once useful forum into the gutter by forcing useful contributors to stop posting.
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