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Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by David jordan, Feb 19, 2020.

  1. PorkAdobo
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    OK. But you have to admit that in "levelling" this playing field, we are essentially tipping it in the other direction for British citizens who wish to work and settle in 27 of our closest neighbouring countries.

    It's not simply immigration to the UK which is affected, but those who wish to emigrate have been profoundly disadvantaged.
  2. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    We would have been "profoundly disadvantaged" for many, many years if we had stayed in the EU.
    The majority who voted for Brexit knew there would be changes.
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  3. PorkAdobo
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    How?
  4. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    In what way?
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  5. Aromulus
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    I don't see how Brits wanting to move abroad to live would be disadvantaged.
    Apart from the Philippines and Thailand, and probably a few more countries in the world where foreigners are not allowed to purchase land, houses, real estate in general, I don't see why European countries would stop Brits from bringing cash in, to spend in the locality of their choice, to purchase a house for their holiday or retirement, or even a business.
    Admittedly they may impose a different set of migration rules and regulations, but making it outright difficult would be like cutting their noses to spite their own faces.
    It would push people to buy in the UK which would help a lot to keep money in, or move further afield from Europe.
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  6. aposhark
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    Looking for trade deals anywhere in the World is a good start ;)

    Don't you think this is beneficial to the UK in the future, PorkAdobo?
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  7. PorkAdobo
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    Because we have lost freedom of movement. The whole point is that it is now more difficult for a Swede* to work in the UK, so the reverse will likely be true.

    Will it be impossible? Of course not. If you have enough money, I'm sure you'll be permitted to buy a house and find a route to retirement. Those not in that position will now find themselves classified as someone from a 3rd country and automatically excluded from huge proportion of working opportunities.


    *Turnips in the Conservative government not affected.

    Oh I see. I didn't realise the EU had no trade agreements which it could negotiate from a position of strength.
  8. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    A level playing field for all.
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

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  10. Druk1
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    Not at all,have the necessary skills and apply (as it should be).Heres 7 pending countries we are losing FOM in (and their citizens in ours).
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11283616
  11. PorkAdobo
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    So the non skilled Brits who do bar work in Ibiza etc (or strawberry picking in Denmark as I did during my student years) can go swivel? Instead they can clean Aunty Doreen's bedpan at the local care home.
  12. aposhark
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    Seven more impoverished countries whose low-paid workers would have swamped us as others did before :eek:

    Well done Boris, the conservative government and the majority of the British voters who have put us on the right path :)
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  13. aposhark
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    Such a narrow-minded viewpoint of the world and how it works.
    I left the country in the late 1970's and worked in 42 countries.
    Be positive :eek:
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  14. Druk1
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    Some people are constant glass half empty kinds :D
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  15. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    The whole point is that we can now negotiate with everyone, not who the EU allows us to.
  16. aposhark
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    aposhark Well-Known Member Lifetime Member

    Negative people are so depressing to me, Druk1 :eek: (Maybe they think they have two or more lives to get it right :()
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  17. Druk1
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    In the real world I avoid negativity,it’s a dark cloud hanging over some people,the world is an incredible place,some people don’t have a hundredth of our blessings yet still smile,always be positive,positivity gets you through some tough times.
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  18. Mattecube
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    you keep chucking in red herrings, in the modern world there should be no ethnic divide, so whether your a Brit picking strawberries or a Filipino does it matter,does it matter if you are a Swede doing bar work in Ibiza or a Canadian or a Hindu, as long as they are legitimately allowed to be in the country the field is level

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  19. PorkAdobo
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    You might be surprised to hear that I don't necessarily disagree with that. You are advocating universal freedom of movement.

    If I want to go and live and drive a taxi in Saudi Arabia, I should be allowed to do so. However, the reality is that it will not happen in my lifetime that we will have worldwide freedoms. All we are succeeding in doing is cutting off so many opportunities on our doorstep to be replaced with Christ knows what.

    Swamped? I thought better of you.

    My mate, Druk1, quoted a 6 year old BBC article. We are still nowhere near Albania joining the EU. It will be a long time before Albanians have freedom of movement in the EU.
  20. Druk1
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    Salient word....pending :)

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