For the first time in my life I would be worried about the future of the UK if JC was elected Prime Minister. I'll do a Paddy Ashdown if JC wins the election It isn't happening.
You think it is our fault just because "terrorist supporting" Jeremy says so... What about the constant muslim on muslim violence taking place worldwide, what about the murder of Asad Shah. What about the worldwide persecution of non-muslims by muslims. The heinous murder of Coptic Christians in Egypt, again, another 28 Copts killed a few hours ago. Wow.
Yes. According to this article many Copts were shot at point blank range, and their children were murdered as well. Worth noting that there were supposedly 28 Coptic deaths, which is more than the 22 murdered in the recent Manchester atrocity.
I don't really understand the Coptic faith, I peered inside a few churches when I was visiting Egypt last year but was afraid to proceed further in case I caused offence.
I believe the argument isn't that British foreign policy created these people, but more that it helped create a power vacuum where such people were able to get a foothold and spread their poison.
We shouldn't have let any of these poisonous people into our country in the first place, or their poisonous ridiculous and primitive belief system. Any under any kind of suspicion of anti-British sentiment should be removed from our country, along with their citizenship. Send them to Syria to pick up bricks. We just want to live in peace and get on with a civilised way of life.
Where do we start and when should we have started and who should we have targeted. What you want would have to have been implemented as policy in the 1950's or earlier, the country is what it is as a result of everyone's contributions, everyone who is here and that has been here for a long time, the country you want and the world that you want would not look anything like the world we have and personally I don't think that what we have is all that bad. Sure the world has problems big problems but it could have been a lot worse.
I am certain that the parents of the young girl whose body was quite possibly ripped apart by shrapnel this last week don't agree with you. As you say, I would guess you might possibly be saying that many immigrants who have lived in the UK for a long time have settled in well, and become a valued part of our country, if so I agree with that, however a significant proportion have not. Did you realise that todays "Times" reports that there are 23,000 known jihadist extremists living in the UK, what do you suggest we do with them all? Edited
What do you suggest we do with them? And I didn't say immigrants who have lived here for a long time have settled in well, you incorrectly inferred that. I only said that Britain today is the sum of its parts.
Why don't you answer Dave's question? According to the Times newspaper, there are some 23,000 jihadists living in the UK. To monitor each one 24/7 requires one hundred specially-trained secret service operatives, therefore around 2,300,000 specialists are needed - and that's before you worry about those who've yet to return to the UK from Syria, Libya and elsewhere. Or you impose Control Orders and fit each with an electronic tagging device - except you can't do that any more thanks to Nick Clegg. Are you really so glib regarding the safety of everyone in the UK? So far this year, we have had two serious terrorist attacks caused by jihadists in the UK resulting in multiple loss of life. How many more such incidents and how many more innocent men, women and children have to die before you and all the other liberal snowflakes admit there is a problem and start suggesting solutions? The only answer the left-leaners have is to blame the government for its foreign policy foul-ups, conveniently overlooking the fact that one of their own led this country into two wars in Muslim lands and his heir made a real mess of Libya. There were no (significant) problems with the Muslim population before 1997: fightiung between Indians and Pakistanis certainly but Arab Muslims, no.
This sick individual was British by birth only, nothing British about him. It is 100% to do with their sick Islamic beliefs.
You are, basically, agreeing that British foreign policy is to blame by posting this. It's not a party political issue. Just because the prime minister who led us to war in the middle east was a labour prime minister it doesn't alter what Corbyn is saying. He hasn't specifically cited the current government on this, just British foreign policy. You say yourself here that there was no problems with muslims before 1997. So why did it start at that point? Because of British foreign policy presumably.
The only solution to a problem like this is a very extreme solution which no Government would be willing to carryout, by whatever means every muslim in the UK would have to leave, either under their own steam or with a push. After the UK is free of the Islamic religion we enforce a total ban on any muslims entering the country. Of course the above will never happen, these attacks are very likely to increase and successive Governments will continue to keep trying to put a lid on it to no avail. In my view these attacks will never cease, what we are seeing now could just be the start. Does anyone here have any ideas on how to deal with this situation, for me the seeds were sewn and our fate was sealed many years ago when we first started allowing people from muslim countries into the UK?
Even in death I feel he should have his British citizenship taken away. However, worth pointing out that muslims in Manchester are out in support of the city. http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/muslims-march-to-manchester-arena-13100687 BTW there was a British student who put a bomb on a London underground train recently. It doesn't get the same publicity it would have had if he had been Muslim, but he was recently convicted. There are warped people in all walks of life.
I think you will find that the student who left the bomb on the train had mental issues, he didn't do it because of his religious beliefs. It no good the muslims marching in Manchester, your average muslim is 100% against the British way of life but thankfully most of them do not choose to get involved in terrorist activities.
The law says he is British. He was born here so he is as British as you or I. However if we are "more" British because our parents were also British then we could apply that theory to our wives. If your wife or my wife takes up citizenship then they are again British by the law of the land and one could technically argue that he is "more" British than them. He was sick, a very sick individual but relating the sickness to his belief I'm not so sure I agree with that. Associating his sickness with his belief is simply a way to demonise difference. Britain is multi cultural. Other countries in the EU and the rest of the world are multi cultural. Had I met my wife as a muslim in Mindanao opposed to a Catholic from the Visayas it wouldn't have made one jot of difference to me. When I meet people face to face belief isn't something that comes to the fore of my thoughts. I base my feelings upon what comes from their mouth and their approach towards me. Tarring everyone with the same brush is antiquated, we need to move on as a society and show intellect rather than prejudice.
