And you reckon the guy in Manchester never had mental problems? Blowing yourself up and killing loads of kids at the same time seems pretty convincing to me. "Mental problems" is always trotted out when it's a white guy. It was the same with the killer of Jo Cox. They're all mental in my book!
I always say to my wife that she will never be British, British passport holder yes, being British is deep rooted and cannot be given over in any shape or form, some people are more British than others that's obvious from the postings I see here. And for me I would never in a million years enter into a relationship with a muslim, I would be cast out of the family and rightfully so, Christianity and Islam do not mix isn't that blatantly obvious by now? I am now becoming more prejudiced towards muslims with every atrocity I see, they believe that they are part of the only true religion and disregard and disrespect every other form of religion.
Then there was some guy in America recently who deliberately drove his car along the pavement and deliberately killed several people. The police response? 'It's not terrorism. He's had a lot of problems recently and is actually a very nice guy.' Imagine that being said about the guy in Westminster. Surely it needs consistency?
I'm fairly sure that you'll agree that the first Gulf War - instigated in the UK by Thatcher and prosecuted by Major - was a just war. Kuwait had been invaded by an aggressive neighbour and British interests threatened. Blair's Gulf War 2 was all about regime change, about Blair's ego being rubbed - about him being seen to be a major player on the world stage. It was an entirely illegal war and its principal political prosecutors should be languishing in jail for the remainder of their lives. It was that war and his intervention in Afghanistan coupled with his open door immigration policy that are major reasons for Islamist extremism targeting this country. Cameron and Obama's idiotic Libyan excursion was also about regime change: Cameron is so ideologically in tune with Blair that he failed to understand that both Saddam and Gaddafi were strong rulers who, by and large, kept their countries in order. (No I'm not overlooking the cruelty that these men enacted against their own people but it's hardly relevant.) The only Labour politician who really understood the situation and fully appreciated the government's need to protect its citizenry was David Blunkett. Jeremy Corbyn and his lusty girlfriend, Diane Abbott, have consistently voted against increasing security measures and I truly fear that if they become the new Prime Minister and Home Secretary, events such as we have witnessed in Manchester and London will become the norm.
So are my kids not British then? My family would support me in my life choices within the confines of the law. Some faiths can be viewed as insular from those outside the faith however respect is the order of the day. Whether someone agrees to my belief or not is their choice but I do ask them to respect it.
I certainly agree regarding what happened in the middle east, and this is what Jeremy Corbyn is saying and some people are choosing to get outraged about. Whether I'd want him a Prime Minister I'm not so sure. Best option for me, this time, would be a hung parliament. The tories have shown they need someone to keep them in check. I will be hoping for that.
That's a very commendable Christian attitude. Unfortunately not all Muslims - and no Islamists - share your point of view and do not respect our laws, customs or way of life. They don't wish to integrate into our society and indeed the Blair/Brown government specifically encouraged isolationism: many on the left continue to believe that is a good idea. By the continuing promotion of political correctness, certain misogynistic Muslims are still able to groom and rape our young girls and the Police are unable to prevent it.
To me your kids will never be British, half Filipino half British, mixed blood. a good mix of blood though in my view. And as far as respect goes how can I respect a religion that doesn't respect my or any other religion, respect is a two way street and it needs to be earned?
I have read much of the above with amusement rather than surprise. There is no easy solution to the terrorism problem and I don't think anyone has any answers to it. Whilst it is tempting to propose a solution such as 'remove all muslims' or 'remove all jihadi', it is impossible to implement since UK law does not permit prosecution based on belief. It is a legal principle that one person can not know another person's state of mind. Consequently, everyone is legally free to have whatever beliefs they choose. A belief can never be presented as evidence. Furthermore, it would be impossible to discriminate against muslims without also presumably extending the lack of tolerance to Jews, Roman Catholics, Baptists, Buddhists or Hindus - which would certainly damage that fabric of the society that the far right of the forum would claim to protect. I do not feel @Timmers, that you, as the self-appointed arbiter of what constitutes 'Britishness', are qualified to be in that position. Perhaps the fact that you were willing to state that to your wife says something about the dynamics of your relationship. I believe my wife would find that offensive, but perhaps she is just the easily offended sort. Any British person is a mix of blood. Nordic, Anglo-saxon, German. French. Irish by the way. The principles of keeping the blood line pure seem to stray rather close to the views of Nazi Germany wouldn't you agree? Personally I am happy to consider any holder of a British passport as being British. I am sure that any forum members here who have recently obtained British passports are proud of their achievement, and welcome them to this country.
Not all Christians respect our laws nor integrate into mainstream society. That's their choice but are you saying their belief (Muslim/Islamist) is what makes them a bomber or rapist? No of course you're not. Slightly off-topic here but what are your views of same sex marriage? You have the same mentality as others in this thread? A mentality of "if it doesn't follow my rules then lets castigate it because I'm too ignorant to even comprehend anything other than my righteous path"?
Given that we are about to enter negotiations with the EU, I suggest we need a government with a decent majority but not the landslide that was predicted earlier. Corbyn has shown that he heads a deeply divided party and his performance as leader of Her Majesty's Opposition has exposed him to be weak and wobbly. It isn't simply about numbers: House of Commons Select Committees and, to a lesser extent, the House of Lords both provide the necessary checks and balances.
I feel very much that I can state what I feel is British or not, and my wife knows full well my views on the subject, there is nothing here that I post that I would mind my wife reading, nothing at all, I'm an extremely honest person which is another British trait deeply embedded in my DNA. So, if I'm in Pakistan and obtain a Pakistan passport people will regard me as Pakistani?.....................get real for once in your life. Just to reiterate, any foreign national that acquires a British passport by settlement or by other means will never be British in my eyes.
'Get real for once in your life'? So, because I do not agree with your viewpoint you now feel able to pass judgement on my life do you, who have never met me? Do you even realize how ignorant your posts have become? Honesty is an admirable trait. However exercising it without regard for the feelings of others is merely being unpleasant. There is nothing admirable about that. @HaloHalo would have every right to be annoyed at your strange and ignorant remark concerning his children. Fortunately for this country, the majority do not share your views.
Being born in the UK and of mixed race does not suddenly make you British, you're the ignorant one, not in a million years. And as usual you are here trying to stir trouble up between myself and HaloHalo, is it any wonder that I have personally received two personal messages from Filipinas here on the forum complaining about your arrogance.
So because I don't agree with the received wisdom I'm the ignorant and arrogant one. Are you satisfied with that logic? It seems to me that the thing you find most offensive of all is that anyone would dare to disagree with you. Others have made remarks about the 'received wisdom'. I feel that's basically the truth of it. I am not interested in 'stirring trouble' as you put it. It seems that you are doing quite well all by yourself. It disappoints me to see this forum, which formerly used to be quite an interesting place, degenerate into a forum for a few active far right wing loonies to use as their personal soapbox. As for your message claiming that people are complaining to you about me. What can I say. I apologise to them and if they message me, rather that you, then I will speak to them and put whatever is wrong, right. I am not afraid to apologise if I have been offensive. I have however never seen you apologise for anything. I believe that if my own wife (who is incandescent with rage at the remarks about never being British) is a good example, then views such as those in this thread are likely responsible for many more Filipina abandoning the forum and choosing not to contribute further.
