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Seems Duterte means business.

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Bootsonground, Jul 11, 2016.

  1. Bootsonground
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    Seems he means business and heads will roll one way or another.. So far so good from this observers stand point.

    23 Mayors countrywide involved in illegal drug trade according to new PNP chief "Bato"... Soon to be named to the public.
    http://www.socialpees.com/2016/07/pnp-chief-revealed-that-there-are-23-mayors-who-ate-involved.html

    5 Generals named publicly by Duterte himself and now ordered to Camp Crame for investigation.

    http://pinoytrending.altervista.org...-3-generals-allegedly-involved-illegal-drugs/

    Literally 1000`s of pushers and users have handed them selves in to avoid the alternative measures that now seem so popular here.

    http://atimes.com/2016/07/dutertes-drug-war-yields-quick-results/
  2. KeithAngel
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    Lets hope you only have friends then
  3. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Lets hope Duterte doesn't fall out with middle aged British and foreign men who live in the Philippines, they could be a rare breed if he does :)
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    Duterte is doing fine killing street level drug dealers at the moment. Once he starts messing with the big boys he's a goner!
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    Seems Dirty Harry has the blessing of Solictor General:

    Solicitor General Jose Calida held a press conference on Monday at national police headquarters to insist on the legality of the police killings and to encourage more deaths of people suspected of being involved in the drug trade.

    "To me, that is not enough," Calida said of the killings so far.

    "How many drug addicts or pushers are there in the Philippines? Our villages are almost saturated (with drugs)."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippi...ngs-suspected-criminals-100423947.html?ref=gs
  6. Markham
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    He may not be too popular with a certain Essex boy based on Cebu island who has made more money than he can count from the hard drugs and the illegal shells trades. Any foreigner captured as a result of that level of criminality is likely to be dealt with very harshly by the courts and prisons systems - and they shouldn't count on the British Embassy for anything other than a very basic level of support (for which they would have to pay).
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    Don't make the mistake of underestimating him.
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    Reports have surfaced that top and crime lords are raising a P1-billion bounty for the heads of Duterte and incoming Philippine National Police chief Ronald de la Rosa.

    READ: Bounty for Duterte et al. now P1B

    Dela Rosa has earlier claimed that the bounties were offered by drug lords incarcerated in the New Bilibid Prison.

    Duterte remained unfazed by these threats as he pushed for the reimposition of death penalty under his administration.

    The 71-year-old incoming President said he would promote policemen who would “slaughter” those involved in drugs and wanted to assassinate him.

    “If they put up P100 million, I will give you P150 million, slaughter them. I will give you a promotion on the spot, from PO1 to general,” he said.



    Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/792402/duterte-ill-top-drug-lords-bounty-offer#ixzz4E6MCJ6lj
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    It only needs a good shot.... as with Kennedy.

    Nobody is home safe .
  11. baquero
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    memories are short.

    we've been here before, and it wasn't all that long ago either.

    Thaksin Shinawatra's 'war on drugs in Thailand starting in 2003, when initially about 2,800 people were killed extra-judicially in about 3 months, 30 per day (which will be much more than will get shot this time in the Philippines) ended up being an abject failure. It ultimately had no effect on drugs consumption at all. It was a handy little vote-winner for Thaksin though as the 'war on drugs' was popular with the peasants who kept voting for Thaksin election after election. Killing suspected low-level drug dealers and users in their hundreds like happened in Thailand had no effect on drugs use. So one wonders, when it has been shown already to be a policy that has failed dismally in a country very similar to the Philippines, why Duterte wants to go down there. Unlike Thaksin, and even if it would be a vote-winner for Duterte, that doesn't matter because unlike Thaksin, Duterte doesn't have to worry about being re-elected, as under the constitution, and even if he wasn't over 70 years of age, Duterte will never stand for office again - presidents of the Philippines are only allowed to serve a single six year term.

    like in Thailand only about half of the people who are going to get shot dead in the Filipino ghettoes in the next few months in front of their neighours, will actually have any involvement in the drugs trade at all. In Thailand they got killed when they were just a passenger on the back of somebody's motorbike who themselves was only suspected or accused by somebody else of being a drug dealer. In Thailand's war on drugs, they got killed, not because they were a drug dealer, but because in the community meetings the cops used to gather names to draw up the deathlists, somebody with a score to settle said they were. They got killed, just because they were a relative of a drug dealer with a similar-sounding name or just a totally innocent bystander. They got killed, because they had just won the lottery and people reported that they were suddenly started spending large amounts of cash. And all for what? As the establishment Manila press who admittedly are no supporters of Duterte, have been pointing out for months, Thailand's war on drugs was an abject failure. Thousands of Thais were killed, tens of thousands arrested, hundreds of thousands surrendered for treatment, and millions of pills seized. True, there was a bit of a short-term effect on the availability and a rise in the price of meth. But today drugs use in Thailand is no less pervasive now than what it was back in 2003. In fact its got worse. The methamphetamine ('yabba' in Thailand, 'shabu' in the Philippines) street price is not much more than half now than what it was back then.

    today there's more yabba users in Thailand than there ever were. The Philippines has even more of a problem - the median age there is much lower and 50% of Filipinos are under the age of 23. At the average Filipino Saturday night provincial outdoor basketball court disco, everybody looks about 15, but they are all off their heads. This Philippines 'war on drugs' is going to end up the same as did in Thailand with a big pile of corpses and a lot of their owner's motorbikes going for cheap down the police station, but with very little else to show.

    also Duterte had better watch out. Three years after Thaksin Shinawatra started the Thai war on drugs, he was ousted in a military coup. The Philippines army top brass, like just about every other institution in the country, like the Manila broadcast and news and business elite, and especially the church, don't like Duterte who's only real supporters are the masses. Duterte's big job is to get te Philippines elites onside, not this stupid drugs war. I wish Duterte all the best actually now he is president. However I think he could be facing problems. Although the Philippines is not as susceptible to coups as Thailand is (the Filipino army are so incompetent that they can't even pull those off) I think Duterte is unlikely to complete his term.
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  12. Anon04576
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    I think Whipster should write a book on his observations. No one can ban him doing that :)
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    baquero banned already ? who was he before ?
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    Whipster
  15. graham59
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    Why is he banned ? (Sorry... I'm old :( ) .
  16. Anon04576
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    :) He was warned several times Graham but he didnt heed the request for his swearing and lack of respect to the Filipino community. Banning is not something we take lightly and we discussed with him about changing his approach.
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    Ah, ok. Thanks. :like:
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    Rodrigo Duterte: New President's 'war on drugs' reaping lethal results on Manila's streets
    By freelance correspondent Ben Bohane in Manila

    I had been enjoying the hospitality of Manila's night-crawling media and police photographers at their base for barely 20 minutes when the first call came through.

    Jumping into a convoy of cars at the city's police headquarters in Ermita, we moved at speed through the tangle of traffic, racing to document the next killing in the Philippines' "drug war".

    It was 11:00pm and the dozen photographers from local media, such as the Manila Bulletin and Philippine Star, and wire agencies, had already covered one slaying earlier in the evening.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Filipino media at Manila's police headquarters watching television, playing cards and singing as they wait to be called out to the next crime scene. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)
    "Last night there were 12 killings around Manila," one says. "Most nights recently there are at least 10."

    We head to Marikina City in north-west Manila and find a crime scene being established by police. A body lies in an alley next to a convenience store.

    As we wait for permission to go under the yellow tape and photograph, we get the next call — a shoot-out nearby.

    "Let's hop to the next one — it is an ex-cop who has been killed, so it will be more interesting," freelance photographer Linus Escandor says.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Racing through the streets of Manila to another crime scene, Filipino media and police photographers travel in a convoy of vehicles. The group must move quickly before investigators close off access. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)
    Fifteen minutes later, we are at the next scene. There, spread-eagled with gruesome head wounds and a trail of blood, lies the former police officer, dead.

    He had been killed in a shoot-out with officers from the Station Anti-Illegal Drugs Special Operations Task Group during a midnight raid, 25 minutes earlier.

    The man was identified as Pelito Basan Obligacion, an alleged drugs and guns dealer — and like most cases — had supposedly "fired first, causing police to respond".

    A Colt 45 pistol lay near his limp hand.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Police secure a crime scene where a drug runner was killed in Marikina City, in the north-west of the Philippines capital, Manila. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)
    The scene is ablaze with headlights, flashing police lights and TV camera lights, as forensics teams go to work — once the photographers have got their shots.

    Yellow tape then cordons off the area, spent bullet casings are circled in chalk and numbered.

    "Most of the killings happen in the outer suburbs or central Manila, not so much in Makati [the main business district] because there is a lot of CCTV there," Linus says.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Police at the scene where an alleged drug runner, who was also a former policeman, was shot dead by police in Quezon City. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)
    Addicts race to rehab
    The killings began before Mr Duterte had even been sworn into office, as if in anticipation.

    Two weeks after his inauguration, 200 drug dealers and users have been killed in shoot-outs in the withering crackdown where police have a licence to "shoot first, ask later".

    About 60,000 addicts have handed themselves in for treatment at clinics around the country in recent weeks, fear now overriding hardcore addiction.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: A chalk circle marks a spent bullet casing at a crime scene. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)
    In 2012, the United Nations said the Philippines had the highest rate of methamphetamine use in East Asia.

    According to a US State Department report, 2.1 per cent of Filipinos aged 16 to 64 use the drug, known locally as "shabu shabu".

    Chinese triads have been accused of importing it from China and meth labs have reportedly been operating in prisons, implicating jail wardens.

    Last week Mr Duterte named and shamed five of the nation's highest police chiefs as "narco-generals", who protect criminal syndicates.

    More than 120 officers have been sacked in one province alone, the Visayas region, according to the Philippine Enquirer.

    Mr Duterte has even enlisted the willing help of the New People's Army — the communist insurgents —to take out drug dealers in their areas.

    The Philippines leader has vowed to risk everything to put an end to the drug problem, which he says is a major security and corruption issue.

    A former mayor of Davao, on Mindanao, he is credited with creating one of the safest cities in the country with his tough-on-crime approach, although critics have denounced his vigilante-style methods.

    In a recent speech, Mr Duterte summed up his stance: "If you destroy my country, I will kill you. If you destroy our children, I will kill you. If I am asked by anybody, including the Commission on Human Rights, I do not know you".

    Not only legal and human rights organisations, but ordinary Filipinos who voted for him are alarmed by what they see as a war on drugs, that is also a war on poor people.

    A taxi driver, Bobby, says he voted for Mr Duterte, but told me:

    "We have courts for a reason. You can't let cops be judge, jury and executioner."

    [​IMG]PHOTO: An election poster for now President Duterte hangs above a shop in a neighbourhood of Manila. (Ben Bohane)
    Summary executions common in drug war
    In the early hours back at the station, the police and general media are smoking and strumming guitars when a fourth call-out comes.

    This one is a "salvage job" — slang for a summary execution — so named because the victims are often wrapped in plastic and dumped.

    The local media refer to these as vigilante killings, often aimed at silencing potential informers. But according to Linus, not all of them deploy the "salvage job" approach.

    "They can't be bothered wrapping them in plastic. They just shoot them and say there was a shoot-out," he said.

    Once again we are speeding through the traffic, heavy for this time of night. This is actually the most dangerous part of the job, as usually the press and police photographers arrive after the killings and there is not much risk.

    But the rush to get to a crime scene and document it before police cordon it off and remove the body and the evidence, is the riskiest part, as I soon discover.

    Changing lanes in light rain, a taxi brakes hard in front of us and suddenly we are fishtailing and nearly slam into buildings on the sidewalk.

    At that point, it is after 3:00am and back at the station I decide to call it a night, leaving the photographers waiting for the next macabre scene, as the bodies in Mr Duterte's drugs war keep piling up.

    [​IMG]PHOTO: Filipino media arrive back at their base at the Manila police headquarters in Ermita, after documenting the latest casualties of President Duterte's war on drugs. (ABC News: Ben Bohane)


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-18/president-dutertes-war-on-drugs-reaping-lethal-results/7636324
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    17,445 drug personalities yield to Bohol authorities
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    A total of 17,445 drug personalities have surrendered to authorities across the province based on a data from the operation branch of the Bohol Provincial Police Office (BPPO) in Camp Dagohoy, Tagbilaran City.

    According to the BPPO, 648 drug pushers and 16,797 users in the province yielded to police and officials since the inauguration of President Rodrigo Duterte on July 1, 2016 until Thursday, July 14.

    As indicated in the same data, 7,773 homes of suspected drug personalities were visited by police and barangay officials as part of Oplan Tokhang.

    Ubay recorded the highest number of drug pushers and users who surrendered to authorities at 1,600.


    http://boholchronicle.com.ph/2016/07/16/16797-drug-personalities-yield-to-bohol-authorities/
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    I didn't vote for him but I trust that he knows what he's doing. :cool:

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