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The murder of George Floyd

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Mattecube, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

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  2. Druk1
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    Druk1 Well-Known Member

    Anyone officer who supports the brutalisation of a 75 year old gentlemen is best off working in a totally different occupation away from the public,good riddance to them.
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  3. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    I am tired of all this now.
    Some of the demonstrations have been taken over by criminally and politically organized gangs.
    And some others are treating a criminal like a hero.
    I DO NOT condone what the 4 policemen did, like I did not condone what a bunch of corrupt cops did to Rodney King many years ago, and countless others in between.
    But the time has come to take a step or two back and reflect, that all what is happening in a lot of instances is further stoking up hate and resentment.
    By demonstrating in such a violent manner, they are only showing me, that they hate me because I do happen to be white.
    How can I prove to baying mobs that I consider everyone by their merits and not their skin hue and colour? That I consider everyone human beings, and race and colour does not come into my thought process? That I am not racist?
    I do have a bone to pick with Ideologies, tho...Political correctness gone wild and woke idiots dictating and patronizing me.
    Bit more than my two pence worth.. sorry.
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  4. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    By the very inference of "Black lives matter" don't white lives matter?
    It is a fact " All lives matter"

    But it's getting warmer now so we can expect the clueless lot of "I've got nothing better to do than join a protest march" out of hibernation!
  5. Druk1
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    Rent-a-mob ANTIFA are infiltrating the ranks in the London demos for certain,this year's BLM was last year's extinction rebellion for some,rebels without a clue,any cause so long as it's anti-establishment.
  6. oss
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    The demonstrations are and have been 99% peaceful, there are clear videos of people committing wanton acts of destruction while being challenged and asked to stop by peaceful protestors, there are people being employed to deliberately start trouble and taint the protest.

    There are videos of black shop owners legitimately protecting their business from looters being handcuffed by police when they were the ones who called the police asking for help.

    Where are the "baying mobs" Dom, really where are they and who are they.

    Criminal gangs, who are they and who is backing them, you think it is the left, really.

    George Floyd had a criminal record, hero he wasn't a hero, he was a man who had his life taken for no reason, his record does not matter does not justify his life being taken in the way it was.

    Ideologies?

    Which ideology is responsible for the death of George Floyd, maybe the one that says whites are superior to blacks and that blacks should be treated as animals, we have an openly racist white supremacist in the most powerful seat in the world today, a coward and a bully, we have an American party system that on BOTH side condones this and has for time immemorial.
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  7. oss
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    ANTIFA?

    Now who are they who is their leader what is their organisation.

    I mean for gods sake it means Anti Fascist.
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  8. oss
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    Oh great, white lives don't have an automatic handicap, actually in reality they do lots of us are born into poverty but we whites don't have the extra millstones round our necks that any person of colour has to suffer.

    My son is very dark skinned, right now he looks white but give him ten minutes in the sun and he would be black again, this stuff matters to me to my family I am a white man who has already had to give his child the talk about how he has to be extra careful if I ever manage to get him to the UK or god forbid we went on holiday to the USA.
  9. Druk1
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    I know what it means :) you don't think there's a troublemaking element?I have a pic of one of their masked up brigade popping a flare in central London a few years ago :ninja:
  10. oss
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    Why is the fringe violence of unidentified individuals the first thing ever mentioned when there is any talk about protest, why?
  11. Druk1
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    Might have something to do with the 20+ police officers injured yesterday by that very same "fringe violence" in London at a guess?
  12. Aromulus
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    Aromulus The Don Staff Member

    Sorry.

    I do respect the notion and the right of a peaceful demonstration to air grievances and wake awareness of perceived or real inequalities.
    What I do not like, is the fake whipped up rage shown by presumably stage managed trouble stirrers.

    As I mentioned, I DO NOT condone the wantoon murder of Geoge Floyd, I actually condemn it and hope his killers may, if and when they are found guilty, spend a whole life term in jail with no parole.

    "Baying mobs"
    Would any of us, feel 100% safe, if we were in such a situation in a demonstration on the verge of turning ugly??
    How far your screaming "I am not a racist" will go, if you are challenged?

    Yes, I am scared. I feel as I have no more sense of being able to walk about in safety, and having been in lockdown for 11 ans 1/2 weeks doesn't help my mental state at all either.
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  13. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    In your opinion Oss, do you believe that half Filipinos are a potential target in the U.K.?
  14. Aromulus
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    A lot of ignorant people would just regard him as a non "indigenous" and probably draw the wrong conclusions.

    I was told that it is a much easier life for coloured persons to either live in Wales or Scotland. Where attitudes towards foreigners of all sorts seem to be more relaxed and accepting.
  15. Anon220806
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    I think you are right. That has always been my thinking. Fortunately my daughter is quite light skinned. As for my wife, nobody would see her in a crowd as she is below the line of sight of most of us in the west. :D
  16. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I think you have miss-read my post or I wrote it badly, in simple terms the protesters should be carrying banners "All lives matter" not refer to any skin colour white,black, yellow!
    In every walk of life, in every gender sexuality and in every ethnic background whites included children are born into situations of having as you put it "millstones" I would put it as social handicaps or crosses to bear,how they deal with it , well that is down to themselves and those who can influence them.
    I think to comment in reply to me "this stuff matters to me" infers it doesnt matter to me, well it does!

    there are some terrible scenes across the world at the moment with violence and abuse being thrown about like its cattle fodder in all directions,and the biggest regrettable part of this is that unrest and violence will diminish the message of peaceful protest.
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  17. Aromulus
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  18. Druk1
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    I know an English guy and his filipina wife who were the target of anti-social yobs in a small Scottish town,they eventually moved to London and the problem stopped.Currently I think London is easier to blend in,my son is half pinoy,but he looks mediterranean,never had a jot of trouble,my nephew half Thai also in the same age group (mid 20's) once again no trouble at all.
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  20. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Do we really believe that little miss I want to protest for love, peace and life would carry out such vandalism? No nor I. Its summer time and the anti establishment brigade are out.
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