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visa applications--submitting documents.

Discussion in 'UK Visa and Immigration Help' started by bigmac, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. wardy33
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    wardy33 Active Member

    the problem is to many people are abusing the system so they have hiked thresholds but married people are the ones who will pay if you are married to non EU citizen, get on a dinghy in calm weather and all found no problems , then disappear seems the way to go use brothers sisters name if you need NHS etc etc, that is why many will try illegal routes it is easier and cheaper then the legal ones
  2. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Wifes daughter has just done hers, takes 10 to 12 weeks depending on the application. The referees forms and photos you can upload with all the other documents, begs the question why do the have to sign it? anyway we just stuck the referees photos signed and DOB on the form uploaded. The daughter took the forms with her to her biometrics appointment but wasnt asked for them. Just asked for proof of ID
  3. wardy33
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    thanks mattecube you said referees photos its the applicants photos that go on the referee forms not a photo of the referees is it? also i am confused as it says on some forums the referee has to sign the applicants photo and do their full name and dOB it does not say that on the online form did you sign the photo or the referees?
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  4. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Sorry yes applicant
  5. wardy33
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    wardy33 Active Member

    thnx yes doing it the weekend then hopefully a few more Months U/K passport, then can go to Spain etc without hassle.
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  6. Richard James
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    My partner just got her fiancée visa approved. It said her uk entrance clearance is valid from 24.2.24 - 24.8.24. Does this mean that she can enter the UK anytime from these dates?
  7. GJD223
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    Yes, she can entry from 24/2/24 - as long as she is here within that period, taking into account that you need to get married and apply for spouse visa too.
    fiance visa is valid for 6 months - at a guess I would say this is her fiancé visa valid period. After 24/8/24 the visa is expired. Get her here as soon as so that you can get married within that period and apply for spouse visa. Sure I will be corrected if wrong !
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  8. Richard James
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    Thank you so much, yes the plan is to get her here at the end of Feb. She's currently pregnant with our child and due in Aug so it's a relief we will get married and the spouse visa long before then. On another note when I applied I uploaded everything myself online and not once did they ask for my originals which suprised me.
  9. GJD223
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    Congratulations - exciting times for you ahead - I remember waiting for my wife at Heathrow - it’s was a day when all the computers went down and she took about 3-4 hours to come out - it felt like my first day at school I was so nervous haha
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  10. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    your wife / fiancee will not be allowed free NHS treatment till she applies for the 1st FLR and pays the IHS surcharge. Dunno how this affects pre natal and childbirth..you need to check this out.
  11. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Pregnancy related health measures are free and outside the surcharge remit
  12. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Yes very exciting and nervous times waiting for her to come through arrivals hall , but what a moment!
  13. bigmac
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    bigmac Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    thats a relief--thanks for clarifying that.
  14. Br28016
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    Br28016 Active Member Trusted Member

    Believe you have to pay. Need marriage certificate and visa application ASAP. Potentially may be worth doing priority to minimise bill. Will get treatment but may have to chase for a bill as may come back to haunt them in later applications for things such as citizenship know someone who had problems at that stage for NHS charges and sure it was linked to bill when pregnant.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...5YIJegQIDxAA&usg=AOvVaw2s_2jGXYp-5C5dKkLBHVXh
  15. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    This is where I got my answer from and my point would be intent to remain and outstanding application.providing the op had applied for spouse visahttps://maternityaction.org.uk/advi...women are entitled,paid for previous NHS care.
  16. GJD223
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  17. Br28016
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    Will definitely get NHS maternity care as that is a right the only question is the potential bills.

    My reading is that they apply the ordinary residence test. On a fiance visa then fails the lawfully resident element as have to have ILR status. Coverage then falls to whether have paid the IHS charge and normally coverage kicks in at FLR approval stage. Reason why priority may be advantageous as stops charges after granting point although will need to make sure trust stops charges.

    The NHS applies a test to determine whether you are entitled to free maternity care:

    • Are you lawfully resident in the UK AND
    • Are you in the UK voluntarily AND
    • Are you properly settled in the UK for the time being? AND
    • If you are an EEA national, do you havey Settled Status or Pre-Settled Status?
    For the first one:

    Am I lawfully resident?

    For the purposes of the ordinary residence test only, the following groups will be lawfully resident:

    • British citizens
    • Individuals with a Right of Abode
    • Irish Citizens
    • EEA nationals who have Settled Status or Pre-Settled Status
    • Non EU nationals who have Indefinite Leave to Remain in the UK
    • Non EU nationals who have settled status or pre-settled status
  18. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    Yes but then paras further down
    Am I properly settled in the UK for the time being?

    Being ‘properly settled in the UK for the time being’ or living in the UK for ‘settled purposes’ are phrases that do not have a specific or technical meaning.

    The following points are relevant in determining whether you are ‘properly settled in the UK for the time being’:

    • You can be in the UK for one reason (for example your or your partner’s employment or course of study) or for several reasons.
    • How long you have lived in the UK at the time you start receiving your NHS care is relevant, but there is no minimum period. You can, depending on your circumstances, be living for ‘settled purposes’ from the date you arrive in the UK.
    • You need to intend to remain settled in the UK for the time being, but you do not have to intend to live here permanently or indefinitely
    My point would be if the expectant had an application in and pending they are showing an intent to remain settled in the UK, further a Fiancee visa can be classed as pre settlement visa which is covered in the link Iposted and the one below that is high lighted

    You will need to show evidence that you are ‘properly settled in the UK for the time being.

    end of the day it will be how the relevant NHS trust manager views the guidelines and individual circumstances I guess and how well prepped the parents are.
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  19. PorkAdobo
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    My wife (or me) ended up with a bill of £1.5k for an unplanned ectopic pregnancy that occurred in that period before FLR was granted.

    We were upfront from the outset with my wife's status and took her passport to the 1st hospital visit. The Overseas Patient Liaison told us there would be no charge if we sent her a copy of a bill showing my wife at the UK address. Marvellous. Horrible situation, but problem sorted. Then several months later we got a bill from the NHS Trust's Accounts Receivable department demanding payment. They just waived off what the Overseas Liaison person had said. I didn't want to jeopardise future applications with having debt to the NHS on file so begrudgingly paid. I was fuming about the whole thing for a long time afterwards and the whole clapping for the NHS during COVID was a bit of a joke.

    If already pregnant, I would get the FLR application in at the earliest opportunity possible. I wouldn't want to run the risk of dealing with arsehole debt collectors who get NHS discounts at many major retailers.
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  20. Drunken Max
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    Drunken Max Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Hi Everyone, Long time no post.

    Just to let you know that we have just passed Indefinite Leave to Remain. We paid for the expedited route as we were hearing stories of upto 5 month waits for a decision and my wife to keep her job. Anyway, had biometrics in the morning a decision by the afternoon. good luck to everyone else on their journey. Citizenship next, hopefully in time to vote these clowns out of office.

    Best regards

    Kev

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