Definitely a major change in trend though at that point, before the end of October. Sure, we do see numbers go higher at one point but the overall trend upwards is stalling. Easy to see retrospectively though. What that change in trend direction is down to is another matter. It’s a funny thing Oss. I have been analysing trend data for years and you and I definitely read such data differently. Funnily enough every well that has ever been fractured applies the same approach. But also every well drilled had at least one suite of geophysical logs run and trend analysis is always applied to identify bed boundaries. In real time aswell.
Well I will grant you that you understand trend data better than I do in that case, it's not my job mate Considering that the tier restrictions were in place prior to then perhaps the restrictions were having some effect. I can see what would be considered a flattening from October 27 onwards.
There you have it..at that date ..of the 37000+ deaths IN HOSPITAL. 96% had underlying heath problems....of which 93% were aged 60 plus. It doesnt state their ethnicity.
The proportions have been published for a long time including the difference in outcome for women vs men, you only have to apply the % for each age group to the overall deaths.
Most certainly will be..but i imagine in the same percentage as those in hospital I cant help thinking the lockdown could be more selective. Like "asking" all the higher risk categories to now self isolate for a few weeks and let the rest of the country get on with life..before the whole economy implodes.
Older people contribute £61bn to economy | Latest press | Age UK That link is to an article from 6 years ago, its probably even more true now, we are a big part of that economy that might impode. Asking higher risk categories to self isolate would not be for a few weeks it would be months and a lot would happily go with it, I would, I want to stay away from anyone as long as there is any significant amount of infection in the community, but the virus would still burn through the rest of the community and if you really tried to get to herd immunity levels, something that has never happened without a vaccination programme, you would still be increasing the risks for those more elderly as you cannot completely avoid all human interaction. You would increase the chance that essential goods being delivered to the elderly could have contaminated surfaces as the proxy shoppers delivering your Tesco or Morrisons order may be more likely to be infected and will have handled all the shopping in the process of getting it to you, shelf stackers will be more likely to be infected fruit pickers more likely to be infected the whole supply chain would have greater risks. I drink soft drinks zero sugar soft drinks, I wash every bottle ever since a report that viable Covid particles were detected on plastic surfaces after 30 days, I had reckoned three days for safety and I was wrong. High quality printed carton packaging has a smoother surface and is more likely to retain active virus (I have no evidence that is a gut feeling) I tend to decant the contents of such packaging carefully without touching the contents until after I thoroughly wash my hands, plastic packaging in the freezer, I wash my hands after handling anything from the freezer, I don't mind handling the food like frozen chicken that is in these containers because that's going to get cooked at high temperature for long enough. The point is that the more the virus is circulating, which it will be if all the under 55s go back to work, the more difficult it is for the elderly to isolate effectively, nobody manages 100% correct handling of packaging all the time. I know that they say you should not have to worry about packaging but the reality in my opinion is you should, because there are no real accurate real world studies to evaluate this kind of thing. The reality is we are only a few months away from being at least partially protected, there are two working vaccines but even 95% efficacy will not be enough to fully halt this thing unless there is sufficient uptake of vaccination, with a global vaccination program we could exterminate this virus or at least push it all the way back into its animal reservoir.
That program on TV the other night did mention ethnicity. Big time. Dr Aseem Malhotra is very quick to point out ethnicity as a factor. It didn’t crop up in that short interview. From I news: “Dr Aseem Malhotra, a London-based cardiologist who the Health Secretary asked to advise him on the links between ill health, obesity and the coronavirus, has written to Mr Hancock saying there is a “huge lack of awareness” among the public and scientific community about the role poor metabolic health is playing in the pandemic. It is also “likely” to be the most significant factor as to why those from Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic (BAME) backgrounds are disproportionately affected by Covid-19, he said.”
Food for thought Oss. Will the vaccines, when available, give us license to continue to eat the wrong foods still.....
Of course people will go back to their "bad selves", John. I think there will be an initial period where people are more sensible but it will all slide downhill again, albeit slowly.
Probably, obviously it won't change dietary requirements for people who are diabetic, but yeah it will likely be a get out of Jail card for many, to use the Monopoly analogy definitely needed on that Monopoly board you posted View it positively though, it is the opportunity and motivation for people to make a point of improving their health after they get at least some immunity. For me I just had to get my car MOT done today, that meant walking back home from the garage at 9:15am this morning, I was knackered because I've not even had the daily walk to the car and then to the office and the walking round the office that I would have at least had in normal times. My heart rate was 135 when I got home but I had been walking quickly and up some hilly bits, it was slow to recover compared to my youth but I got back to normal fairly quickly, anyway I had to go pick it up tonight (it passed with no advisories by the way, 5 years use for £400 that car a 2Litre 29 year old Honda Accord ) when I went to pick it up I walked at the same speed but felt a lot better for that short walk 3/4 of a mile in each direction. I had been about to take up swimming this year and that obviously got kiboshed but if I get another chance I will make a point of being more active and actually enjoying life, I'm not talking about trying to exercise weight away but about being fit and feeling better for it, cardiac fitness is well worth the effort
No. I don’t. But I work out at work. The 8 yo has a go. Yes, she does the whole 40 minutes. Twice a week.
That's very interesting, how are the electrical resistance and gamma ray sensors deployed? Do these sensors get deployed down test bores or are some of them devices that run from the surface? How deep can you get with this kind of data at this time?
