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Government facing Brexit defeat in Lords over EU nationals

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Timmers, Mar 1, 2017.

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  1. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Yes I heard Juncker saying that the UK could rejoin the EU again, he must have been talking to Farron :) who I'm sure will fight the next General Election under the banner of re-joining the EU, his theory behind that will be to increase the failing Lib Dem vote and nothing else in my opinion.

    It amazes me that the EU accept Juncker with his obvious drink issue, surely you cannot act in office if you are full of pop all the time :)
  2. Aromulus
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    Is he ever sober..???

    One day, they may find traces of blood in his alcohol..........
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  3. Mattecube
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  4. Bluebird71
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    And the point is missed again. People are moaning that Lord Kinnock/Heseltine are on the gravy train, whilst championing a "hero" who has been on that gravy train for years. Their hero is "anti-establishment" but is peeved with his party's only sitting MP for not pushing for his knighthood.
  5. Bluebird71
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    I suggest this news is of more benefit to Markham than it is to me. But, yes, I am happy at the news because it stops our little island being overcrowded by ex-pats moaning about the weather.
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    The only thing remarkable about all of this is that some of you actually think/thought there is a chance Brexit may not happen!
  7. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    When article 50 is triggered are you running the Union Jack up on the front lawn? :)
  8. Bluebird71
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    Not so long back, Britain applying to leave seemed like delusion. Who knows, following a decade of isolationism worldwide, a new reformed EU could be something that the younger generation of Brits would be seeking re-entry into. Remember, 75% of people (who voted) aged 18-24 voted to remain. 61% of voters of retirement age (65+) voted to leave. As the leavers turn into fertiliser, and as teenagers become voters, it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that the electorate will be wanting something quite different in 2030.
  9. Bluebird71
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    It is impossible to run the Union Jack on the front lawn.
  10. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    British Expats should always be more welcome in the UK than new immigrants who have contributed nothing to the country.

    Or do you think otherwise?

    (Everybody moans about the weather)
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  11. Timmers
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    I believe the EU will implode over the next few years, the youngsters of the EU will be wanting to leave especially once they see the UK thriving outside the EU :)
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  12. Bluebird71
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    You have an amazing skill in missing the point.
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    You need to elaborate on what "thriving" means.
  14. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    Economically :), and the general feeling of well being knowing that all the decisions that affect all our day to day lives are made in this country, super.

    The EU spends all its time dealing with the dilemma of the day instead of dealing with the issues that the people of the EU care about.

    The next dilemma could be just days away if Turkey opens its borders and lets God knows how many refugees to flow into Europe because of their tiff with the Dutch.

    I'm glad the Turks are rioting in Amsterdam tonight and not London.

    400,000 Turks in the Netherlands, even more in Germany, 3 million, another very good reason for Brexit if ever there was one :)
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  15. Dave_E
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    Dave_E Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    I was stating a fact.
    And you missed (ignored) the question.
  16. Timmers
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    Timmers Well-Known Member Trusted Member

    A little party maybe, you know, little sausages on sticks and all that, a good bottle of champers maybe? :)
  17. Bluebird71
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    I thought the economy wasn't important.
  18. Bluebird71
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    Bluebird71 Well-Known Member

    Even then, you can't run the Union Jack up a lawn
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    To be honest it isn't, there is more to life than the economy and money.

    But I do believe that after some economical turmoil the UK will come through strongly as it realigns itself in world commerce.
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  20. Bluebird71
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    It's a daft question that enforces a false dichotomy on me.

    And what fact were you stating - I apologise because it is unclear to me.
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