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Labour's Tuition Fees Betrayal

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Ethics' started by Markham, Jul 12, 2017.

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  1. Markham
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    Ha! There was no spelling mistake in that message as had you looked-up each word in an English dictionary, you would know. And for one almost all of whose messages contain spelling, punctuation and grammatical mistakes, you've no right to even question others on their use of English. And, you will note, that I and others are remarkably relaxed and don't give you 'bad spelling' awards for every post you make.
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  2. KeithAngel
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    :) Should er

    You are the only person that has given me a "bad spelling":p


    You did already the one with a broken website still a tory though regardless
    :lol::lol::lol:

    I would remind you Mark that you are both the one recently agitating to ban politics on this forum and the poster of this mealy mouthed attack on our glorious leader putting other peoples lies in his mouth...hypocrit:)
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    Is this the same "glorious leader" who supports despots and dictators such as Maduro who not only is strongly suspected of benefiting from election fraud but has opposition leaders arrested and locked-up? We know that Corbyn's idol-worshipped Hugo Chavez who turned Venezuela from a being a wealthy country into one of the region's poorest.

    Here's another of your "glorious leader"'s useful idiots:

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    "But we still haven’t heard from Theresa May on the matter. It surely matters more what the Prime Minister – who actually has international clout – plans to do about this than coaxing the Leader of the Opposition to either reassess or double down on past views."

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-care-what-jeremy-corbyn-says-about-venezuela

    Saudi Arabia is to execute 14 young men for protesting – where is Theresa May’s condemnation?
    There are 14 pro-democracy demonstrators who face execution after being caught up in protests against the royal family which turned violent. What’s even more disturbing is the fact that British police may have directly helped arrest them

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...audi-forces-torture-theresa-may-a7878361.html
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  5. KeithAngel
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    Should.......er:p
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    KeithAngel 2063 Lifetime Member

    Do give tthe different parts of yourself a good talking to:)
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    I don't really care who you vote for but, since your posts support Tory policies that I oppose, then I will counter the propaganda when I see fit. I think this is a PUBLIC forum, and not s closed shop.

    I will also give posts ratings as I see fit. I think Keith posts a lot of things worthy of a winner tag, try not to get wound up by such trivialities.
  8. KeithAngel
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    Its DisMay that supports them apparently

    In the last year of figures, to March 2016, licences for goods worth more than £80,000 were approved, including equipment for crowd control to be used by law enforcement agencies.in Venezuela

    Jo Swinson, the Liberal Democrats deputy leader, said it “smacks of double standards for the Tories (and Markham) to attack the Labour leadership for supporting Venezuela whilst selling arms and security equipment to dictators and regimes with even worse human rights records.

    “The Conservatives have rightly hailed the importance of supporting human rights and democracy in Venezuela. But they seem to find it irrelevant when it comes to selling billions of pounds of weapons to Saudi Arabia, which executed 153 people by beheading in 2016 and is indiscriminately bombing civilians in Yemen. In the past two years, the Conservative government has even continued selling security equipment to Venezuela.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...over-sales-of-military-equipment-to-venezuela

    Like I said nothing is to low for your Tory Mates or You:troll:
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    My philosophy is that a university is a business. It can (and should) charge what ever it likes. If you don't like it, don't go there. If enough people don't like it, then they'll have the reduce their fees, just like any other business.

    We've go into this ridiculous situation where it's assumed most children should go to university. I guesstimate that at least 50% of those enter university and take out a large loan to fund it, have absolutely wasted their time (and money).

    To become a scholar, a mathematician, scientist, philosopher etc - fine, university is the way to go. For everyone else - go get a job, find an apprenticeship, start a business etc.

    We need to teach our children to stand on their own two feet and not be dependent on the state or anyone else.
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    That's a facetious and false comparison. Labour Prime Ministers have always been complicit in the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia to help defend Britain’s supply of Gulf oil and maintain aerospace jobs – from English Electric Lightnings in the sixties, to BAC Tornadoes, and then Typhoons. More importantly, May has not been advocating Saudi Arabia as a role model – or, as Diane Abbott said of Venezuela, evidence that "there is another way". Furthermore, you're critical of Duterte's anti-drugs campaign and his alleged encouragement of vigilantes whilst at the same time remaining strangely silent about Maduro's treatment of his political opponents whom your man Livingstone believes should be summarily executed. Come the revolution, Livingstone, will doubtless be the Felix Dzerzhinsky to Corbyn's Ulyonov, McDonnell's Marx and Milne's Rasputin. (In case you don't know who Dzerzhinsky was, after the revolution Ulyonov appointed him head of the Cheka, the secret police force and forerunner of the KGB.)
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    After Corbynistas spent the last two weeks trying in vain to distance Jez from the thugs in Venezuela, the geniuses at the Morning Star write "Corbyn is our Chavez":

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    And it should come as no real surprise that John McDonnell’s PPS, the new Labour MP Karen Lee, is a fan of a mass-murdering dictator who put homosexuals in concentration camps:

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    Jess Phillips, the moderate Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley, is no fan of the hard left. Commenting on their rampant sexism in Labour List today, she said: "They [the left-wing men] are the worst, the actual worst. Men said they supported better female representation but, when it came to losing their own jobs, they would say, ‘Oh, you mean me? But I am so clever. I’ve got so much to offer the world’. They are literally the worst." Come the revolution she'll be exiled to some Gulag or other no doubt.
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    And how is that facetious? since neither Jeremy or I have been a Labour PM or supported any that have? Its good to see what passes for your moral compass putting oil and jobs befor a small thing like beheading folk for holding a different view to a despot

    Still acting as the self confessed murderers apolagist I see have you no shame?

    No revolution required just the ballot box

    Having said that I have to take my hat off to you, for ten years to my knowledge you have posted 20,000 times on various forums instead of earning a living and now,although no one else seems to have noticed you having supported brexit have availed free movement and ECJ rulings to become a benifit tourist at the UK taxpayers expence sounds like a Daily Mail Story:rolleyes::lol::lol::lol:
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    Read what I wrote again; I never said that.
    You mean like Maduro has been doing? And where was Livingstone's moral compass when, as the London Mayor, he signed a multi-million Pound contract with Chavez to supply oil to London?

    Just how do you plan to pay for your proposed land of milk and honey when there'll be wide-scale capital flight - so no tax revenue from the rich - and there'll be no jobs in manufacturing either? And no oil or gas. The lights will soon go out, just as they did in the late-sixties and seventies under a union-beholden Labour government. Remember those times? I do.
    Not at all: If I am an apologist (which is its correct spelling, by the way) for Duterte, then you must be one for Maduro, Chavez, the IRA, Lenin and all the other crackpot dictators and revolutionaries so beloved of your Fuhrer. But you should remember that Duterte remains highly popular with an over 70% presidential approval rating and the vast majority of Filipinos support him; Maduro, on the other hand, resorts to violence and murder to cling-on to power.
    Ha! Not a chance! I look forward to the Friday morning - sometime between now and June 2022 - when we wake up to discover that Jo Swinson is the new de facto leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition and that the Conservatives form the next government with a decent majority. There "is another way" but it doesn't involve your lot!

    Given your Fuhrer's and his inner circle's adoration of Marx, Lenin, the IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah and Maduro, I wonder if they really do have faith in the ballot box, preferring to seize power by other means such as revolution.
    You're making stuff up - ten years? 20,000 message posts?!! :troll:. Not that it's any of your business, I stopped earning a living just before we moved to Malta at normal retirement age. And why shouldn't I support Brexit when I have my two sons' futures to consider? As I recall, you were debating whether or not to support Brexit and yet you "availed free movement and ECJ rulings".

    As for the assertion that I'm "a benifit tourist at the UK taxpayers expence" (the spelling mistakes are yours), you're behaving like the :troll: I know you to be. Again, not that it's any of your concern, between the ages of 18 and 65, I have not claimed one penny piece from the government. Private (company-provided) health insurance covered the cost of my two periods of hospitalisation - and my father's employers paid for my education.

    As for your "although no one else seems to have noticed ..." I'm actually not surprised. Your hard-left rhetoric has driven them away.
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