Register a marriage enquiry

i do hope so @Timmers
thank you again.


thanks to all of you.
i didnt expect that someone will even reply but you did.

Thank you for starting such an interesting thread

But I hope nobody else would risk doing the same in the future. I'm just afraid if they catch you bending the rules you'll have a record and might get back at you on your next visa application.

I was thinking part of the 28 day thing is they will investigate with the home office as well.

I think the only important thing about this is that she will leave the country by the time visa requires.

the more i think about this--is it possible UKVI have now back tracked on the " marriage visit visa" ? after all--it costs the same as a standard visit visa---so whats the difference ? maybe UKVI cant legally prevent a marriage if the usual conditions are met--proof of singleness etc.

The difference is the "intention" of getting married on a marriage visit visa. As Timmers stated you can get married on a visit visa as long as it was never your initial intention to get married when coming to the UK. So if your fiance "surprised" you when on a visit visa and you agreed, it seems you can indeed get married.

Its all about intention but nobody can disprove that, even UKVI can't therefore, walay problema.

fine--so UKVI is powerless to prevent a marriage even if the non uk visitor does not have the correct visa. so why have a marriage visit visa at all ? makes life a bit simpler. oh no--we cant have that

That's why the likely scenario is the refusal of the future visa application. The thing is it's unfair for those who applied for fiance visa with all the fee and the hassle. The UKVI tends to seize illegal action to refuse an application just to control immigration.

Therein lies the question. Who here would come on a visit visit and get married even though apparently it is do-able?

probably none on here--but i'm sure many would--if they didnt know the rules and thought it would get them a new life in the UK.

UKVI may not stop the marriage but they can definitely do something when applying for the next visa. The thing is it is breaching the contract of the visa so they can well use that as reason for refusal so it is very risky to marry on a visit visa.

It is risky and not the norm of application of the visa and its rules. To answer my own question and as BigMac has suggested, to be with a loved one would probably more peace of mind if one follows the normal procedures. Notwistanding that I hope the OP stays with us and reports on events at a later date with a success story.

the fact that apparently UKVI wrote to the OP giving permission suggests to me they know they are powerless to stop it

and--more importantly--

if ukvi did give the OP permission----how could they refuse a subsequent settlement visa ?

also--UKVI cant bend their rules for one person.

I suppose the fact (to my knowledge) that anyone who has joined this forum has been through that route, we cannot conclusively have all the answers to this story.

I hope she won't have problem securing the next visa.

That is the point, to be honest all we know about here on the forum are basic rules, nobody here apart from maybe Micawber can quote with any certainty on visa issues out of the ordinary.

Why would she if she was given permission?

At the end of the day the young lady may have jumped the gun but she is not going to save any money on visa fees etc.

I hope she does get back to us with an update when she applies for the settlement visa, then we can say we have learned something new

I'm not very convinced it's the UKVI.

Well, unfortunately we may never know.

I would really like to know the ins and outs of exactly what the young did regarding the UK marriage but alas we will probably never know.