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Coronavirus in the UK

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by aposhark, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. oss
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    oss Somewhere Staff Member

    My real problem here is that the rash is a symptom and that started last Tuesday so now I am at day 7 and developing new symptoms gradually over the last few days and I am starting to feel worse.

    The urge to cough is growing this evening.
  2. Anon220806
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    Anon220806 Well-Known Member

    I thought the cough was the prelude to it all?
  3. oss
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    No for some people the rash can be the start, lots of people never get the cough but they are infected, others get other ranges of symptoms. For others the rash comes later.

    For some it goes straight in and attacks the heart and the kidneys and apparently that route is pretty bad others are getting neurological symptoms like loss of taste.

    This thing is not presenting in any kind of standard way.
  4. Anon220806
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    You got a result yet Oss? Negative?
  5. oss
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    Nothing yet but I am feeling a bit better today, I just wish the symptoms didn't overlap with my other problem so much as I am starting to think that my operation might not have been 100% successful, got a review of that coming up in a couple of weeks so maybe I will ask for another MRI scan to see if the upper pocket of infection has reduced in size or not, the seton is draining and appears to be working.
  6. oss
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    Yep negative, so a relief I suppose but the way I felt over the last 5 days points back at my bowel again.
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  7. Anon220806
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    Deaths from Covid In the U.K. have dwindled to almost negligible. Cases are being confined. Schools are back next week. Cases are accelerating in France again. What does it all mean and how will the next few months pan out?
  8. Mattecube
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    Mattecube face the sunshine so shadows fall behind you Trusted Member

    I think we just have to " get busy living not get busy dying" knocked from Andy, Shawshank Redemption.
  9. oss
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    UK about 900 cases three days ago then 1500, then 1276 yesterday, deaths trail cases by 3 to 8 weeks sometimes longer, death numbers in France, Spain, Italy and Germany are small at this time but all of them have moderately high case numbers.

    For France and Spain it kind of looks like tourist season was a bad idea whether the deaths will follow we just have to wait and see, the next big event is schools reopening and again we will just have to wait and see.
  10. Anon220806
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    Great movie that.

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  11. Anon220806
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    Back to school could be a nightmare for us. I don’t expect things to go smoothly but hope am wrong. We are all set here for our 7 yo to be back in school next week. First time since end of March. Where is the cross fingers emoji?

    My personal take is that a big chunk of the most vulnerable have already been “removed from circulation” and the rest of the population that’s left are and will be more resilient.

    We shall see.
  12. oss
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    There have been reports that the strain circulating in Europe is more infectious but less deadly the popular rags started reporting this late July and the Sun for example just the other week, just to be clear the D614G SARS-CoV-2 mutation has been here since March it is quite possible that it was here at the same time as other more deadly strains but if it is more infectious it will have spread further faster and could have out competed the other strains for resources to infect (humans).

    It is not in the fitness interest of any virus to be too deadly, if the virus is robust and can survive inert in soil or the general environment then it's opportunities to replicate will exist some time in the future but any fragile virus that kills outright and quickly will rapidly cease to exist unless the population it can infect is very large and concentrated, but even then it could kill all its potential hosts and what then its dead too.

    So viruses like all other life are under selection pressure, if one strain is really good at infecting people that strain will probably cause the extinction of a lot of other strains circulating at the same time and it is that selection pressure that will one day turn SARS-CoV-2 into another common cold it might take 50 years but mutation and circulation will result in it adapting to its host, us.
  13. Anon220806
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    Viruses under the pressures of natural selection...I suppose they are too.
  14. oss
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    When you take the example of the cruise ship where 700 odd out of 3000 were infected, half of those infected were asymptomatic and they later went back and did CAT scans on the asymptomatic and then found the same kind of ground glass lesions in their lungs, then we really don't know the consequences of this thing.

    Those asymptomatic people are testing with poorer lung function than before, people who lost taste and smell now presenting with parosmia months later where food now tastes disgusting to them (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53903804) we really don't know where this thing is going.
  15. oss
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    They absolutely are mate :)

    edit: we got lucky with SARS in 2003 it mutated away from us, it ended up harmless to humans.
  16. Anon220806
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    Indeed. Time to stock up on bog roll again? :lol:
  17. oss
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    I didn't have to back then as I already had a stockpile of all the things I really needed including loo paper and I still do, like a year's supply of toothpaste, shampoo and soap and two years supply of Fairy liquid :)
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  18. bigmac
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    How are you feeling now ?
  19. oss
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    It wasn't Covid-19 it was my old problem the operation has not really helped indeed it might have made it worse in some ways, I had a few days last week where I felt ok but generally I am all over the place with bacterial infection.
  20. Anon220806
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    This coincides with my thinking. Hope it’s about right.

    “Professor CARL HENEGHAN: currently no second wave. What we are seeing is a sharp rise in number of healthy people who are carrying the virus, but exhibiting no symptoms“


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