Government facing Brexit defeat in Lords over EU nationals

Unlike many of your persuasion, I did not vote selfishly. And when I did vote - around the 18th or 19th June - every opinion poll and pundit's predictions pointed to a safe majority for remaining.

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So you didn't know what you were voting for??!! Hahahahaha! I certainly did, as did everyone else who voted for Leave!

By virtue of being the lone man who has taken us to the brink of leaving the EU he deserves a Knighthood, there isn't a politician around today and can touch him.

Poorly informed, we had months of it man?????????????????????

What more did you need to know? Call your mate Fallon or Cleggy, they will spin you a yarn or two and refight the referendum with you

The poorly informed are the same people who are poorly informed on everything in life.
It's actually about not paying attention !

Nigel most certainly deserves a knighthood, though he has publicly stated that he doesn't particularly want one.

The odds are stacked against him as he has upset too many people in "the establishment".

Politics ! ​

What is your point?

Many hard working immigrants in the UK oppose the travesty of unlimited EU migration, as indeed do many members of this forum who have foreign partners.
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Obviously Nigel opposes the totalitarian nightmare that the EU has become, as indeed the majority of British people did when they voted in the referendum.​

Nigel claims expenses when he sits in the EU Parliament because he has "expenses", as do the other MEPS. Have you never claimed expenses?

I am certain that Nigel's expenses are scrutinised much more closely than the others.
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What is the point of attending a debate when all you are doing is rubber-stamping a decision that has been made in advance, are you totally clueless about how the EU works.

If his attendance would have made a difference he would have been there!​

Please see the first point, (at the top of this post).​

I look at it like this, Nigel is more honest and sincere than the vast majority of politicians, look at Clegg and Fallon, they ooze with lies and insincerity. I do not believe one thing that comes out of their mouths, and neither does the vast majority of the electorate if the last General Election is anything to go off.

So, are you saying Remainers voted selfishly whilst Brexiters voted for some reason that is more wholesome?

Flippin' 'eck. What a sweeping statement.

On one hand I am accused of being arrogant and suggesting only remainers knew what they voted for (not my views, but you all seem to have an amazing skill to misinterpret). When I apply some modesty, this tripe is thrown at me!

As for everyone who voted leave knowing what they were voting for, evidently you didn't! Furthermore, there were plenty of leavers who claimed they didn't actually think voting leave meant what it did.

You do like exaggerating.

Another sweeping generalization, but this is the norm for you. Next you'll be claiming only people that were well informed voted to leave. Oops, Markham beat you to it.

Nigel is hankering for his knighthood. If he doesn't want it, he could stick to whatever his principles are that day and refuse. What he really wants us a peerage.

People usually get into politics for two things. Either to make a difference or to get on the gravy train. That your beloved Nigel feels incapable of making a difference on fishing debates suggests maybe it was the gravy train he wanted.

Doesn't alter the fact that Farage is largely hypocritical on many things he claims to stand for. He's an opportunist, nothing more. A bit like his mate Nuttall.

No, that's what you're saying in an attempt to put words in my mouth, words that I didn't write.

I knew exactly what I was voting for, thank you. And where are these supposed leave voters with 'buyers' remorse'? Maybe only in your imagination and that of your Lib Dem fellow travellers.

Are you, I wonder, crying into your beer after hearing the news that the Lib Dem plot to kill Brexit stone dead failed and failed miserably last evening? Lord Newby, leader of the Lib Dems in the Lords, claimed as recently as 29th February that "No significant body of opinion in this House is seeking to prevent the passage of the Bill, but there is a world of difference between blocking the Bill and seeking to amend it". Was it dishonesty or rank opportunism that made him introduce the wrecking amendment late last night "the House declines to allow the Bill to Pass". Although 85 Lib Dem peers voted 'Content', they only managed to attract support from 3 Labour, 3 Crossbench, 1 Plaid and 3 non-affiliated Peers whilst there were 340 Non-Contents. Still you do have your celebrity plaintiff to fall back on.

I must say, I'm not a Nuttall fan and to be honest I don't think Nigel is too, I wouldn't say he is a opportunist as he has been working towards Brexit for the past twenty years.

To me the Liberals are a dishonest bunch, we all know full well that they wish to block Brexit, they don't have a democratic bone in their bodies.

The Liberals think they know best and that is that, they are starting to annoy me greatly.

Farage left the Tory party 25 years ago at the time of Maastricht which he opposed. Ever since then he's been a vocal advocate of Britain leaving the EU. He was named "Briton of the Year" in 2014 by The Times.

There are too many bad politics involved at the moment.​

Nigel has made a big difference, have you not noticed?​

"Suggests, maybe"...

Nigel is fighting against the EU Gravy train, he wants to put himself out of a job.
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I didn't realise he was voted Briton of the year, good for him.

Has Fallon or Clegg been voted Briton of the year?

Probably won *ob of the year

Only among the 8% of the electorate - according to the latest ICM Poll for the Guardian (dated 3-5 March) making them very much the fourth party.

For expense fraud and misuse of publc funds? not one